[LCA2019 Chat] temperature in the conference
E. Dunham
edunham at edunham.net
Tue Jan 15 10:39:19 AEDT 2019
I have personally gotten a lot more sunburned in NZ than in Hawaii or
Oregon, on days that "feel" equally sunny. This could be psychosomatic
because I've been told to wear sunblock more down there, or it could be
from mis-judging how sunny a day is, or any of a bunch of other factors
as you mentioned.
Regardless, I hope we can all agree that getting burned is a thing to be
avoided and, for whatever reason, misjudging sunniness and getting
burned is common for visitors to NZ. Perhaps my original point would
have been better communicated without any mention of the ozone layer at
all, but alas, it's set in the stone of the mailing list now.
On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, at 3:34 PM, John Carter wrote:
> Careful, this is how we get climate change deniers....
>
> ..scientific imprecision uttered so often that nobody is aware that it
> is wrong...>
> I'd point at NOAA but Trump has closed it down for now.. anyway this
> will do...>
> https://www.eldoradoweather.com/climate/world-maps/world-ozone.html
>
> See. NZ has a thicker ozone layer than most of the world.
>
> Less thick than Northern Europe, but substantially thicker than
> Australia, Africa most of Latin America....>
> But somehow it has entered the culture that NZ has an Ozone hole.
>
> No it hasn't.
>
> Antarctica has.
>
> I think the "You get sunburnt in NZ" trope has emerged from a couple
> of things...>
> * Outdoors here is sufficiently nice, people spend more time in it.
> * People from Northern Europe come to NZ and get singed... but somehow
> the rest of the world doesn't exist in our consciousness.> * People get to a couple of 1000m above sea level in the Alps for the
> first time in their existence, and then get burnt.> * After spending a cold wet winter indoors... pasty whites with zero
> tans emerge blinking into the sunlight and get scorched.> * On some, very rare occasions, in the past, the antarctic ozone hole
> has wobbled sufficiently far off centre to affect NZ.>
> ie. If you're from Africa or Australia... and don't go up to the
> Alps... the UV hazard will actually be less here than back home.>
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:30 AM E. Dunham
> <edunham at edunham.net> wrote:>> __
>> Additionally, bring or expect to buy sunblock! Especially if you're
>> used to parts of the world with a normal ozone layer, you might be
>> unpleasantly surprised to spend an hour or two outdoors on a cold or
>> even overcast day and end up burned.>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Donnellan wrote:
>>> 11 degrees sounds positively pleasant compared to the next week of
>>> maximums at http://www.bom.gov.au/act/forecasts/canberra.shtml>>> Looking forward to it being as freezing as possible!
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 06:46, John Carter
>>> <john.carter at taitradio.com> wrote:>>>> I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of
>>>> temperature....>>>>
>>>> At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C.
>>>>
>>>> Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as
>>>> "#%@#! freezing, one notch above winter".>>>>
>>>> So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on
>>>> the day.>>>>
>>>> Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold
>>>> fronts sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a
>>>> Southerly (like right now)... it will be substantially cold(er).>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-)
>>>>
>>>> If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference....
>>>> the peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a
>>>> wind chill of -6 at the moment.>>>>
>>>> But on a warm day will be quite pleasant.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes <chair at lca2019.org>
>>>> wrote:>>>>>
>>>>> On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
>>>>>> How much going outside will be involved at this one and how
>>>>>> effective will air- conditioners be? Will we need to wear
>>>>>> jackets inside or will shorts and t- shirt (the most suitable
>>>>>> clothing for outside according to the weather forecast last time
>>>>>> I checked) be ok for the entire day?>>>>> The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the
>>>>> sun, assuming it shows itself.>>>>> Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page:
>>>>> https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city>>>>> And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T-
>>>>> shirt with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through.>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> --
>>>>> Steven Sykes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chair, LCA 2019
>>>>> Twitter: @linuxconfau[1]
>>>>> Web: linux.conf.au/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> John Carter
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> John Carter
> Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
> Tait Electronics
> PO Box 1645 Christchurch
> New Zealand
>
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