From miniconf-coordinator at lca2019.org Tue Jan 1 23:33:08 2019 From: miniconf-coordinator at lca2019.org (miniconf-coordinator at lca2019.org) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2019 01:33:08 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] LCA Miniconfs Message-ID: Hello everyone, We have a fantastic opportunity for more people to present at two of the Miniconfs on Monday and Tuesday of LCA 2019. The two Miniconfs are: Developer Developer Open Education If you, or someone you know, has something interesting you can talk about related to development or education please submit a proposal. The talks/presentations can vary in length from short lightening talks to about 45 minutes. Developer Developer would like talk times of about 20 minutes. The time may include question time or room change and next presenter setup time. Instructions to submit a proposal: Create an account and login to the dashboard - https://linux.conf.au/dashboard/ Create a "Speaker Profile". Fill in the proposal form. https://linux.conf.au/proposals/submit/devdev-miniconf/ https://linux.conf.au/proposals/submit/opened-miniconf/ There may be other Miniconfs with free presentation spaces as the schedules are finalised. You can check three completed Miniconf schedules on the LCA website now. If you have any questions please reply to me. Thanks Brent LCA 2019 Miniconfs From chrisjrn at chrisjrn.com Thu Jan 3 10:49:59 2019 From: chrisjrn at chrisjrn.com (Christopher Neugebauer) Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:49:59 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Developer Developer Miniconf CFP is still open! Message-ID: Hi All, Since response has been slow this year, we've kept the CFP for the Developer Developer Miniconf open for another couple of weeks. If you're coming to LCA and you've got something to say about development with Open Source tools, we'd love to hear from you! This year, as well as exploring the latest in open source languages, we're looking for talks that discuss aspects including: - Development methodologies, including software testing and release - DevOps tools, techniques, and software deployment strategies - Documentation tools - Software Architecture techniques - Usability and interface design This year, we're looking for 20-minute talks. If you want to submit something, head over to linux.conf.au/dashboard, and follow the instructions to submit a Developer Miniconf talk. See you all at LCA! --Chris -- --Christopher Neugebauer Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From simon at darkmere.gen.nz Fri Jan 4 17:58:44 2019 From: simon at darkmere.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2019 19:58:44 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] The (Unofficial) Linux.conf.au Guide Message-ID: If you are new to Linux.conf.au you might want to checkout the Guide. It covers a bunch of stuff a first-time LCA attendee might want to know. https://www.darkmere.gen.nz/linux.conf.au_guide/ As usual I'm happy for any updates or corrections. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.simonlyall.com/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar From joel at aenertia.net Mon Jan 7 07:52:28 2019 From: joel at aenertia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?=) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 09:52:28 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Home Automation Workshop In-Reply-To: <20181228082028.gt7dzqrurhcl6fj7@merlins.org> References: <010401d49da4$fde41e50$f9ac5af0$@d-silva.org> <0DACD943-8D7C-43C5-ABB3-C85E59E66A26@the-davies.net> <20181228082028.gt7dzqrurhcl6fj7@merlins.org> Message-ID: I've added the initial info from this thread to the Wiki - if the Organizers can update / expand on that would be great! https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/HomeAssistant_BoF Cheers -Joel On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 at 22:21, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 03:46:50PM +1030, Michael Davies wrote: > > I?d be part of that Mikal > > I spent a long time on my misterhouse setup. I'd be interesting in > knowing how others do it now with new/different software and hardware. > > Marc > > > > On 28 Dec 2018, at 7:02 am, Michael Still wrote: > > > > > > Additionally, I am keen to see a homeassistant BoF at LCA this time around. I've created a placeholder wiki page at https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/HomeAssistant_BoF, but would be interested in knowing if anyone else would come to such a thing. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Michael > > > > > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:36 PM Alastair D'Silva wrote: > > >> Hi folks, > > >> > > >> I'll be running a home automation at the upcoming LCA. > > >> > > >> The workshop will cover: > > >> - Setting up Home Assistant > > >> - Using Home Assistant with GPIO > > >> - Programming ARM microcontrollers > > >> - Using 1Wire connected ARM microcontrollers with Home Assistant > > >> - Creating automation rules using Node Red > > >> > > >> The workshop kit includes: > > >> - Orange Pi Prime (4 core 64bit ARM, 2GB RAM) > > >> - 24V AU Plug Pack > > >> - Custom hat for the OPi, with GPIO broken out, 1wire controller & > > >> temperature sensor, DC/DC power supply & pushbutton > > >> - 433MHz RX/TX modules to add to the hat later for RF interaction > > >> - SWD Programmer for programming & debugging ARM microcontrollers > > >> - 2 x 16 Channel 1wire->solid state relay/switch input boards > > >> - 1m ethernet cable to link a 1wire device to the hat (additional devices > > >> can be daisy-chained) > > >> - Relay module (for demo purposes, I expect that real usage will use devices > > >> such as 5 channel DIN solid state relays) > > >> - 3d printed cases for the OPi &1wire boards (maybe, will see how much time > > >> I have available for design) > > >> > > >> The workshop kit will come out to between AUD$100 & $150, and is yours to > > >> keep. The machine is intentionally overpowered, so you can run additional > > >> services as you grow your system. > > >> > > >> The extra hardware is all open source, schematics & firmware are available > > >> at: > > >> https://github.com/InfernoEmbedded/onewire-softdevice > > >> > > >> In that repo are also designs for integrated SSR controllers, Aircon zone > > >> controllers & RGBW LED controllers. I'll add more as I grow my own system, > > >> but it's also relatively easy to contribute your own designs back if you > > >> have a specific need. > > >> > > >> I've budgeted for 30 attendees (21 spots left at this time), and you can > > >> sign up here: > > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fMhuI9Nj5PQ4SVGyEtkQcxBZELwPuUaIfyM5 > > >> VP8aup4/edit?usp=sharing > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 > > >> skype: alastair_dsilva msn: alastair at d-silva.org > > >> blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org Twitter: @EvilDeece > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Chat mailing list > > >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > > > Chat mailing list > > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From alastair at d-silva.org Mon Jan 7 08:41:49 2019 From: alastair at d-silva.org (Alastair D'Silva) Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 08:41:49 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Home Automation Workshop In-Reply-To: References: <010401d49da4$fde41e50$f9ac5af0$@d-silva.org> <0DACD943-8D7C-43C5-ABB3-C85E59E66A26@the-davies.net> <20181228082028.gt7dzqrurhcl6fj7@merlins.org> Message-ID: I don't think we need the workshop info on the BoF page :) I'll be publishing a GitHub repo with the workshop content as soon as it's available. I'm currently madly writing HomeAssistant components to tie everything together. On 7 January 2019 7:52:28 am AEDT, "Joel Wir?mu Pauling" wrote: >I've added the initial info from this thread to the Wiki - if the >Organizers can update / expand on that would be great! > >https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/HomeAssistant_BoF > >Cheers >-Joel > >On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 at 22:21, Marc MERLIN wrote: >> >> On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 03:46:50PM +1030, Michael Davies wrote: >> > I?d be part of that Mikal >> >> I spent a long time on my misterhouse setup. I'd be interesting in >> knowing how others do it now with new/different software and >hardware. >> >> Marc >> >> > > On 28 Dec 2018, at 7:02 am, Michael Still >wrote: >> > > >> > > Additionally, I am keen to see a homeassistant BoF at LCA this >time around. I've created a placeholder wiki page at >https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/HomeAssistant_BoF, but would be >interested in knowing if anyone else would come to such a thing. >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Michael >> > > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 10:36 PM Alastair D'Silva > wrote: >> > >> Hi folks, >> > >> >> > >> I'll be running a home automation at the upcoming LCA. >> > >> >> > >> The workshop will cover: >> > >> - Setting up Home Assistant >> > >> - Using Home Assistant with GPIO >> > >> - Programming ARM microcontrollers >> > >> - Using 1Wire connected ARM microcontrollers with Home Assistant >> > >> - Creating automation rules using Node Red >> > >> >> > >> The workshop kit includes: >> > >> - Orange Pi Prime (4 core 64bit ARM, 2GB RAM) >> > >> - 24V AU Plug Pack >> > >> - Custom hat for the OPi, with GPIO broken out, 1wire controller >& >> > >> temperature sensor, DC/DC power supply & pushbutton >> > >> - 433MHz RX/TX modules to add to the hat later for RF >interaction >> > >> - SWD Programmer for programming & debugging ARM >microcontrollers >> > >> - 2 x 16 Channel 1wire->solid state relay/switch input boards >> > >> - 1m ethernet cable to link a 1wire device to the hat >(additional devices >> > >> can be daisy-chained) >> > >> - Relay module (for demo purposes, I expect that real usage will >use devices >> > >> such as 5 channel DIN solid state relays) >> > >> - 3d printed cases for the OPi &1wire boards (maybe, will see >how much time >> > >> I have available for design) >> > >> >> > >> The workshop kit will come out to between AUD$100 & $150, and is >yours to >> > >> keep. The machine is intentionally overpowered, so you can run >additional >> > >> services as you grow your system. >> > >> >> > >> The extra hardware is all open source, schematics & firmware are >available >> > >> at: >> > >> https://github.com/InfernoEmbedded/onewire-softdevice >> > >> >> > >> In that repo are also designs for integrated SSR controllers, >Aircon zone >> > >> controllers & RGBW LED controllers. I'll add more as I grow my >own system, >> > >> but it's also relatively easy to contribute your own designs >back if you >> > >> have a specific need. >> > >> >> > >> I've budgeted for 30 attendees (21 spots left at this time), and >you can >> > >> sign up here: >> > >> >https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fMhuI9Nj5PQ4SVGyEtkQcxBZELwPuUaIfyM5 >> > >> VP8aup4/edit?usp=sharing >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 >> > >> skype: alastair_dsilva msn: alastair at d-silva.org >> > >> blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org Twitter: @EvilDeece >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Chat mailing list >> > >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > -- >> > > Chat mailing list >> > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> > -- >> > Chat mailing list >> > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> >> -- >> "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" >- A.S.R. >> Microsoft is to operating systems .... >> .... what McDonalds is to >gourmet cooking >> Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP >7F55D5F27AAF9D08 >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >-- >Chat mailing list >Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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URL: From jgoodwin at studio442.com.au Mon Jan 7 23:09:10 2019 From: jgoodwin at studio442.com.au (Julien Goodwin) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 23:09:10 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Wiki arrivals and departures page In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9ea5ecc7-9a51-e7e5-b5fd-1449519099ed@studio442.com.au> On 7/1/19 5:03 pm, Steven Ellis wrote: > Also use this as a chance to update/enhance the wiki. Let's plug some other pages people may want to enhance: https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Before_and_after_the_conference_activities "This is a page for attendees to collaborate and find like-minded people doing things before and after the conference." As well as self-organised group events this includes some around-town events happening while we're there. https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/BoF The general collection for Bird's of a Feather, if you want to get a group of people together to chat about a topic, start a page here. https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Jobs_BoF The Jobs BoF is more than just the in-person event, please feel free to advertise your open positions or availablity. From judge.packham at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 18:28:02 2019 From: judge.packham at gmail.com (Chris Packham) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 20:28:02 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Request for Christchurch locals - Can you update the wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Steve & All, For the purposes of directions where is the accommodation? University Hall I assume? On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 2:23 AM Steven Ellis wrote: > > We need some local insight particular around Food and Drink recommendations > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/w/index.php?title=Food > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/w/index.php?title=Refreshing_Beverages > > Also any other tips/tricks for your visitors. > > Steven > -- > > Steven Ellis > > TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC > > Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From judge.packham at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 19:26:51 2019 From: judge.packham at gmail.com (Chris Packham) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 21:26:51 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Penguins helping Huskies Message-ID: Hi LCA attendees, If you're heading to Christchurch from Auckland, Tauranga or Rotorua Husky Rescue NZ is looking for volunteers to take some extra furry baggage. https://www.facebook.com/HuskyRescueNZ/ They need volunteers travelling on Air New Zealand. Best way to contact them appears to be via PM on facebook. From judge.packham at gmail.com Tue Jan 8 19:28:45 2019 From: judge.packham at gmail.com (Chris Packham) Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 21:28:45 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Penguins helping Huskies In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Direct link to post with the details https://www.facebook.com/HuskyRescueNZ/posts/2038801169542611 On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:26 PM Chris Packham wrote: > > Hi LCA attendees, > > If you're heading to Christchurch from Auckland, Tauranga or Rotorua > Husky Rescue NZ is looking for volunteers to take some extra furry > baggage. > > https://www.facebook.com/HuskyRescueNZ/ > > They need volunteers travelling on Air New Zealand. Best way to > contact them appears to be via PM on facebook. From jon at oxer.com.au Wed Jan 9 00:02:06 2019 From: jon at oxer.com.au (Jonathan Oxer) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 00:02:06 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Register now for the Open Hardware MiniConf and build a self-driving model car Message-ID: STOP ! Please read this notice before wildly clicking the link ! For Wednesday, 9th January 2019 registration is ONLY open for women and anyone typically under-represented at LCA. Last year, we had a number of fully subsidised diversity tickets: we will do the same this year. However, we want to do even more to address gender imbalance. There is always a rush of registrations for the OHMC and places sell out quickly. So this year we are asking that our valued, keen, but highly over-represented male attendees patiently wait until Thursday, 10th January 2019 before registering. Of course, this is a very difficult thing to define, and you may be wondering if this applies to you. All we?re asking is that if you fall into the stereotypical ?white straight middle-aged male? category, please just wait one extra day and give other people a chance to participate without being crowded out. We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up registrations for everyone. Because the lead organisers of the OHMC are exactly those stereotypical straight white middle-aged males, we?re very aware that we don?t necessarily know the best way to do this. We just want to make this event as inclusive and friendly as possible. The one day grace time is an experiment. If you have any feedback for us about what we could do better, please let us know. Thank you ! Now on with the general info: The Open Hardware MiniConf is a 1-day event at LCA, which provides a fun introduction to electronics and hardware hacking. It starts with an assembly session, where you will have the opportunity to learn how to solder while building your own self-driving model car with a machine learning vision system. Places for the assembly session are strictly limited, so registration is required. Even if you ticked the ?Open Hardware MiniConf? box on the LCA registration form, you still need to register for the miniconf separately if you wish to participate in the assembly session. The cost of the assembly session is AUS$130, which includes all the parts required for you to build your own self-driving model car. Some subsidised places are also available for those who couldn?t otherwise afford to attend. The actual value of the parts provided is closer to AUS$260, but thanks to a generous grant from Linux Australia the cost has been kept low in order to allow more people to participate. See http://www.openhardwareconf.org/wiki/OHMC2019 for more information, and to register for the assembly session go to: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aT3gPhfeMZfaexNkXZ15Glb-NFEIFLBWOEC4vpSy8O0 Thanks! Jon, Andy and the OHMC2019 team -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chair at lca2019.org Wed Jan 9 08:08:01 2019 From: chair at lca2019.org (Steven Sykes) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 10:08:01 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Request for Christchurch locals - Can you update the wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Chris, https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=-43.52450&mlon=172.57384#map=18/-43.52450/172.57384 You'll probably be staying at Bishop Julius House as indicated on the above map. Depending on how full they get some people might be staying at College House which as you can see on the map is right next door. If you're coming by bus, look to the right a bit on the corner of Homestead Lane and Ilam Road. The bus stop is there across the road and the P line bus from the airport will stop there. Cheers, On 8/01/19 8:28 PM, Chris Packham wrote: > Hi Steve & All, > > For the purposes of directions where is the accommodation? University > Hall I assume? > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 2:23 AM Steven Ellis wrote: >> We need some local insight particular around Food and Drink recommendations >> >> https://2019.linux.conf.au/w/index.php?title=Food >> >> https://2019.linux.conf.au/w/index.php?title=Refreshing_Beverages >> >> Also any other tips/tricks for your visitors. >> >> Steven >> -- >> >> Steven Ellis >> >> TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC >> >> Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If we bring our own will they be required to be tagged again this year for this venue? Thanks, Wes (null) From irving at irving-st.id.au Wed Jan 9 10:50:03 2019 From: irving at irving-st.id.au (Irving) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 10:50:03 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Register now for the Open Hardware MiniConf and build a self-driving model car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, Do we need to do the assembly session to be able to participate in the self driving part? I am interested in experimenting with self driving and machine learning but I am already doing embedded stuff for a living, so I don't want to take the spot for someone else who wants to learn soldering and hardware hacking. Or maybe if someone else is only interested in the hardware part we can team up? Cheers, Irving On 9/1/19 12:02 am, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > STOP ! Please read this notice before wildly clicking the link ! > > For Wednesday, 9th January 2019 registration is ONLY open for women > and anyone typically under-represented at LCA. Last year, we had a > number of fully subsidised diversity tickets: we will do the same this > year.? However, we want to do even more to address gender imbalance. > There is always a rush of registrations for the OHMC and places sell > out quickly. So this year we are asking that our valued, keen, but > highly over-represented male attendees patiently wait until Thursday, > 10th January 2019 before registering. > > Of course, this is a very difficult thing to define, and you may be > wondering if this applies to you. All we?re asking is that if you fall > into the stereotypical ?white straight middle-aged male? category, > please just wait one extra day and give other people a chance to > participate without being crowded out. > > We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up registrations > for everyone. > > Because the lead organisers of the OHMC are exactly those > stereotypical straight white middle-aged males, we?re very aware that > we don?t necessarily know the best way to do this. We just want to > make this event as inclusive and friendly as possible. The one day > grace time is an experiment.? If you have any feedback for us about > what we could do better, please let us know. > > Thank you ! Now on with the general info: > > The Open Hardware MiniConf is a 1-day event at LCA, which provides a > fun introduction to electronics and hardware hacking. It starts with > an assembly session, where you will have the opportunity to learn how > to solder while building your own self-driving model car with a > machine learning vision system. > > Places for the assembly session are strictly limited, so registration > is required. Even if you ticked the ?Open Hardware MiniConf? box on > the LCA registration form, you still need to register for the miniconf > separately if you wish to participate in the assembly session. > > The cost of the assembly session is AUS$130, which includes all the > parts required for you to build your own self-driving model car. Some > subsidised places are also available for those who couldn?t otherwise > afford to attend. 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URL: From jon at oxer.com.au Wed Jan 9 12:14:59 2019 From: jon at oxer.com.au (Jonathan Oxer) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 12:14:59 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Register now for the Open Hardware MiniConf and build a self-driving model car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Irving, The assembly session is to put together the physical platform that will be used for the self-driving software, to provide a well-supported environment for people who may not be comfortable with doing hardware assembly on their own. The platform itself is based on the Donkey Car project which is very well documented at www.donkeycar.com and other places, so if you feel comfortable sourcing the necessary parts and putting together a car yourself you can certainly do that. Everyone is welcome to attend the OHMC from lunchtime onwards (space permitting) even if you haven't done the morning assembly session or built your own Donkey Car. If you're interested in the presentations and just want to see those without doing the morning session, feel free to come along. It's tricky for us to coordinate pairing people up for the morning session, but if you know of someone who wants to do it with you as a team you can arrange it directly with them and let us know. If everyone did that we'd run out of space in the room, but a few people working in pairs should be fine. Cheers Jon On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:50, Irving wrote: > Hello, > > Do we need to do the assembly session to be able to participate in the > self driving part? > > I am interested in experimenting with self driving and machine learning > but I am already doing embedded stuff for a living, so I don't want to take > the spot for someone else who wants to learn soldering and hardware hacking. > > Or maybe if someone else is only interested in the hardware part we can > team up? > > Cheers, > Irving > On 9/1/19 12:02 am, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > > STOP ! Please read this notice before wildly clicking the link ! > > For Wednesday, 9th January 2019 registration is ONLY open for women and > anyone typically under-represented at LCA. Last year, we had a number of > fully subsidised diversity tickets: we will do the same this year. > However, we want to do even more to address gender imbalance. There is > always a rush of registrations for the OHMC and places sell out quickly. So > this year we are asking that our valued, keen, but highly over-represented > male attendees patiently wait until Thursday, 10th January 2019 before > registering. > > Of course, this is a very difficult thing to define, and you may be > wondering if this applies to you. All we?re asking is that if you fall into > the stereotypical ?white straight middle-aged male? category, please just > wait one extra day and give other people a chance to participate without > being crowded out. > > We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up registrations for > everyone. > > Because the lead organisers of the OHMC are exactly those stereotypical > straight white middle-aged males, we?re very aware that we don?t > necessarily know the best way to do this. We just want to make this event > as inclusive and friendly as possible. The one day grace time is an > experiment. If you have any feedback for us about what we could do better, > please let us know. > > Thank you ! Now on with the general info: > > The Open Hardware MiniConf is a 1-day event at LCA, which provides a fun > introduction to electronics and hardware hacking. It starts with an > assembly session, where you will have the opportunity to learn how to > solder while building your own self-driving model car with a machine > learning vision system. > > Places for the assembly session are strictly limited, so registration is > required. Even if you ticked the ?Open Hardware MiniConf? box on the LCA > registration form, you still need to register for the miniconf separately > if you wish to participate in the assembly session. > > The cost of the assembly session is AUS$130, which includes all the parts > required for you to build your own self-driving model car. Some subsidised > places are also available for those who couldn?t otherwise afford to > attend. 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It starts with an assembly >> session, where you will have the opportunity to learn how to solder while >> building your own self-driving model car with a machine learning vision system. > Hi Jon, > > Will the venue be providing soldering irons? If we bring our own will they be required to be tagged again this year for this venue? > > Thanks, > Wes > (null) -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It starts with an > assembly > > session, where you will have the opportunity to learn how to solder while > > building your own self-driving model car with a machine learning vision > system. > > Hi Jon, > > Will the venue be providing soldering irons? If we bring our own will > they be required to be tagged again this year for this venue? > > Thanks, > Wes > (null) > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cherieellisnz at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 15:49:32 2019 From: cherieellisnz at gmail.com (Cherie Ellis) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 17:49:32 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Register now for the Open Hardware MiniConf and build a self-driving model car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: well done team - I hope that this experiment works and that the simple solutions are the best! Cherie On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 08:09, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > STOP ! Please read this notice before wildly clicking the link ! > > For Wednesday, 9th January 2019 registration is ONLY open for women and > anyone typically under-represented at LCA. Last year, we had a number of > fully subsidised diversity tickets: we will do the same this year. > However, we want to do even more to address gender imbalance. There is > always a rush of registrations for the OHMC and places sell out quickly. So > this year we are asking that our valued, keen, but highly over-represented > male attendees patiently wait until Thursday, 10th January 2019 before > registering. > > Of course, this is a very difficult thing to define, and you may be > wondering if this applies to you. All we?re asking is that if you fall into > the stereotypical ?white straight middle-aged male? category, please just > wait one extra day and give other people a chance to participate without > being crowded out. > > We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up registrations for > everyone. > > Because the lead organisers of the OHMC are exactly those stereotypical > straight white middle-aged males, we?re very aware that we don?t > necessarily know the best way to do this. We just want to make this event > as inclusive and friendly as possible. The one day grace time is an > experiment. If you have any feedback for us about what we could do better, > please let us know. > > Thank you ! Now on with the general info: > > The Open Hardware MiniConf is a 1-day event at LCA, which provides a fun > introduction to electronics and hardware hacking. It starts with an > assembly session, where you will have the opportunity to learn how to > solder while building your own self-driving model car with a machine > learning vision system. > > Places for the assembly session are strictly limited, so registration is > required. Even if you ticked the ?Open Hardware MiniConf? box on the LCA > registration form, you still need to register for the miniconf separately > if you wish to participate in the assembly session. > > The cost of the assembly session is AUS$130, which includes all the parts > required for you to build your own self-driving model car. Some subsidised > places are also available for those who couldn?t otherwise afford to > attend. The actual value of the parts provided is closer to AUS$260, but > thanks to a generous grant from Linux Australia the cost has been kept low > in order to allow more people to participate. > > See http://www.openhardwareconf.org/wiki/OHMC2019 for more information, > and to register for the assembly session go to: > > > https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aT3gPhfeMZfaexNkXZ15Glb-NFEIFLBWOEC4vpSy8O0 > > Thanks! > > Jon, Andy and the OHMC2019 team > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Cherie Ellis +64 21 293 9746 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From irving at irving-st.id.au Wed Jan 9 22:00:35 2019 From: irving at irving-st.id.au (Irving) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 22:00:35 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Register now for the Open Hardware MiniConf and build a self-driving model car In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Jon, Thank you for your explanation. I got someone contacting me for pairing up already so I'll put some notes in my registration. Cheers, Irving On 9/1/19 12:14 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > Hi Irving, > > The assembly session is to put together the physical platform that > will be used for the self-driving software, to provide a > well-supported environment for people who may not be comfortable with > doing hardware assembly on their own. The platform itself is based on > the Donkey Car project which is very well documented at > www.donkeycar.com and other places, so if > you feel comfortable sourcing the necessary parts and putting together > a car yourself you can certainly do that. > > Everyone is welcome to attend the OHMC from lunchtime onwards (space > permitting) even if you haven't done the morning assembly session or > built your own Donkey Car. If you're interested in the presentations > and just want to see those without doing the morning session, feel > free to come along. > > It's tricky for us to coordinate pairing people up for the morning > session, but if you know of someone who wants to do it with you as a > team you can arrange it directly with them and let us know. If > everyone did that we'd run out of space in the room, but a few people > working in pairs should be fine. > > Cheers > > Jon > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 at 10:50, Irving > wrote: > > Hello, > > Do we need to do the assembly session to be able to participate in > the self driving part? > > I am interested in experimenting with self driving and machine > learning but I am already doing embedded stuff for a living, so I > don't want to take the spot for someone else who wants to learn > soldering and hardware hacking. > > Or maybe if someone else is only interested in the hardware part > we can team up? > > Cheers, > Irving > > On 9/1/19 12:02 am, Jonathan Oxer wrote: >> STOP ! Please read this notice before wildly clicking the link ! >> >> For Wednesday, 9th January 2019 registration is ONLY open for >> women and anyone typically under-represented at LCA. Last year, >> we had a number of fully subsidised diversity tickets: we will do >> the same this year. However, we want to do even more to address >> gender imbalance. There is always a rush of registrations for the >> OHMC and places sell out quickly. So this year we are asking that >> our valued, keen, but highly over-represented male attendees >> patiently wait until Thursday, 10th January 2019 before registering. >> >> Of course, this is a very difficult thing to define, and you may >> be wondering if this applies to you. All we?re asking is that if >> you fall into the stereotypical ?white straight middle-aged male? >> category, please just wait one extra day and give other people a >> chance to participate without being crowded out. >> >> We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up >> registrations for everyone. >> >> Because the lead organisers of the OHMC are exactly those >> stereotypical straight white middle-aged males, we?re very aware >> that we don?t necessarily know the best way to do this. We just >> want to make this event as inclusive and friendly as possible. >> The one day grace time is an experiment.? If you have any >> feedback for us about what we could do better, please let us know. >> >> Thank you ! Now on with the general info: >> >> The Open Hardware MiniConf is a 1-day event at LCA, which >> provides a fun introduction to electronics and hardware hacking. >> It starts with an assembly session, where you will have the >> opportunity to learn how to solder while building your own >> self-driving model car with a machine learning vision system. >> >> Places for the assembly session are strictly limited, so >> registration is required. Even if you ticked the ?Open Hardware >> MiniConf? box on the LCA registration form, you still need to >> register for the miniconf separately if you wish to participate >> in the assembly session. >> >> The cost of the assembly session is AUS$130, which includes all >> the parts required for you to build your own self-driving model >> car. Some subsidised places are also available for those who >> couldn?t otherwise afford to attend. The actual value of the >> parts provided is closer to AUS$260, but thanks to a generous >> grant from Linux Australia the cost has been kept low in order to >> allow more people to participate. >> >> See http://www.openhardwareconf.org/wiki/OHMC2019 for more >> information, and to register for the assembly session go to: >> >> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1aT3gPhfeMZfaexNkXZ15Glb-NFEIFLBWOEC4vpSy8O0 >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jon, Andy and the OHMC2019 team >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at merlins.org Thu Jan 10 11:18:45 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2019 16:18:45 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? Message-ID: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> Howdy, I'm going to take the Tranzalpine to Greymouth and back in one day. Is it worth either stopping somehere before greymouth for a few hours and catching the train on its way back (missing the end of the journey) or possibly even getting off the train for a full day and staying somewhere on the journey? (it would have to be really worth it and better than a day of sightseeing in Christchurch that I'd have to cut out as a result) Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From brett at davidson.gen.nz Thu Jan 10 13:50:45 2019 From: brett at davidson.gen.nz (brett at davidson.gen.nz) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 02:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> References: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> Message-ID: Depends on what you like to do. Arthurs pass has a great set of walks you could do. Other than that, not sure if there is anything worth stopping for. Get Outlook for Android On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:19 PM +1300, "Marc MERLIN" wrote: Howdy, I'm going to take the Tranzalpine to Greymouth and back in one day. Is it worth either stopping somehere before greymouth for a few hours and catching the train on its way back (missing the end of the journey) or possibly even getting off the train for a full day and staying somewhere on the journey? (it would have to be really worth it and better than a day of sightseeing in Christchurch that I'd have to cut out as a result) Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From alastair at d-silva.org Thu Jan 10 16:26:27 2019 From: alastair at d-silva.org (Alastair D'Silva) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 16:26:27 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Home Automation Workshop In-Reply-To: <010401d49da4$fde41e50$f9ac5af0$@d-silva.org> References: <010401d49da4$fde41e50$f9ac5af0$@d-silva.org> Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm madly pulling together all the bits & pieces for this workshop. I've contributed to quite a few OSS projects to get this happening, including porting HassOS to the Orange Pi Prime. I've created a Google Group for workshop attendees (and interested parties), where I'll be sharing more information. There are a few people who have put their names down for the workshop, but I don't have their email address. If you are one of these people, please sign up to the group yourself: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lca2019-home-automation-workshop (line wrapped) Cheers, -- Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 skype: alastair_dsilva Twitter: @EvilDeece blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org On Thu, 2018-12-27 at 16:28 +1100, Alastair D'Silva wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'll be running a home automation at the upcoming LCA. > > The workshop will cover: > - Setting up Home Assistant > - Using Home Assistant with GPIO > - Programming ARM microcontrollers > - Using 1Wire connected ARM microcontrollers with Home Assistant > - Creating automation rules using Node Red > > The workshop kit includes: > - Orange Pi Prime (4 core 64bit ARM, 2GB RAM) > - 24V AU Plug Pack > - Custom hat for the OPi, with GPIO broken out, 1wire controller & > temperature sensor, DC/DC power supply & pushbutton > - 433MHz RX/TX modules to add to the hat later for RF interaction > - SWD Programmer for programming & debugging ARM microcontrollers > - 2 x 16 Channel 1wire->solid state relay/switch input boards > - 1m ethernet cable to link a 1wire device to the hat (additional > devices > can be daisy-chained) > - Relay module (for demo purposes, I expect that real usage will use > devices > such as 5 channel DIN solid state relays) > - 3d printed cases for the OPi &1wire boards (maybe, will see how > much time > I have available for design) > > The workshop kit will come out to between AUD$100 & $150, and is > yours to > keep. The machine is intentionally overpowered, so you can run > additional > services as you grow your system. > > The extra hardware is all open source, schematics & firmware are > available > at: > https://github.com/InfernoEmbedded/onewire-softdevice > > In that repo are also designs for integrated SSR controllers, Aircon > zone > controllers & RGBW LED controllers. I'll add more as I grow my own > system, > but it's also relatively easy to contribute your own designs back if > you > have a specific need. > > I've budgeted for 30 attendees (21 spots left at this time), and you > can > sign up here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fMhuI9Nj5PQ4SVGyEtkQcxBZELwPuUaIfyM5 > VP8aup4/edit?usp=sharing > > -- > Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 > skype: alastair_dsilva msn: alastair at d-silva.org > blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org Twitter: @EvilDeece > > From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Thu Jan 10 18:00:53 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 20:00:53 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> References: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> Message-ID: On 2019-01-10 13:18, Marc MERLIN wrote: > I'm going to take the Tranzalpine to Greymouth and back in one day. > > Is it worth either stopping somehere before greymouth for a few hours > and catching the train on its way back (missing the end of the journey) I'd say you'll want to stay on the train through at least Arthur's Pass, to get the best experience of the Southern Alps. All the stops before that are basically on the Canterbury plains or in the foot hills at best. There are only two stops after Arthur's Pass on the route: https://www.greatjourneysofnz.co.nz/tranzalpine/ and both of them (Otira, Moana) are request stops, as is Arthur's Pass. Ie, you'd have to specifically book to go to/from there, otherwise the train won't stop. I believe both are *tiny* settlements (Otira -- population 45: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otira, Moana -- population about 250: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana,_New_Zealand). For all three (Arthur's Pass, Otira, Moana) I suspect you'd want a specific reason to stop, probably involving hiking or similar. Of the three my guess would be Arthur's Pass (another *tiny* village, but a bit tourist focused: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur%27s_Pass), or maybe Moana for Lake Brunner, if you found a specific walk you wanted to do. Seems like you could maybe get 4 hours or so between trains if you got off in Arthur's Pass. Greymouth is a reasonable sized town, and *significantly* different climate to Christchurch. It's also an old coal mining area, so if that's of interest it might be possible to find something of interest near central Greymouth (looks like the train turn around time would give you maybe 30 minutes in Greymouth, which definitely isn't enough time to get to some of the "outside central Greymouth" things I'd otherwise suggest in Greymouth). Ewen PS: Of note, Christchurch is *still* rebuilding after the earthquakes some years ago caused much of the central city to be pulled down. There's not as much "tourist focused" things to do in central Christchurch as their used to be. But there's plenty in "day trip" / "afternoon trip" driving distance of central Christchurch / the University of Canterbury area (which is outside central Christchurch), so renting a car to explore might be a good use of extra days. From jon at oxer.com.au Thu Jan 10 20:28:26 2019 From: jon at oxer.com.au (Jonathan Oxer) Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2019 20:28:26 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf Message-ID: Sorry about the public message to one person! Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session with the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you were just testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the assembly session please get in touch with me right away. We need every spot possible so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to another person. Thanks! Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.carter at taitradio.com Fri Jan 11 07:06:30 2019 From: john.carter at taitradio.com (John Carter) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 09:06:30 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> References: <20190110001845.xcj7fs6xuduh42ud@merlins.org> Message-ID: There are also shuttle busses to / from Arthur's Pass. I'm a mountain sort of person that loves walking / climbing / wild beaches.. so personally I'd rather take a shuttle bus and spend as much time as I could in the mountains. Although be warned some walks on the map are a casual stroll from the road... other's are straight up the side of the mountain and will take a very fit person a (very) full day's very hard scrambling. :-) It you're more a relax with a beer and admire the scenery from a train sort.. apparently the Tranzalpine is one of the best (I'm told by those into that sort of thing)... but I suspect what you can do at Arthur's will then be driven by the train timetable. Last time I went to Greymouth I was singularly unimpressed by it. To me it is around the least interesting part of the westcoast. The wetcoast is great (but wet).... Greymouth.... not so much (but still fairly wet). .. but I should imagine the trip to and from Greymouth would be nice. Mountains are weird... they are so darn big, they look best when you're a certain magical distance away from them... What that magical distance is, is unknown, as these mountains move. Some days they are up close towering _there_, just over your shoulder.... other days they are purple and distant... other days... they have vanished. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 11:09 PM Marc MERLIN wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm going to take the Tranzalpine to Greymouth and back in one day. > > Is it worth either stopping somehere before greymouth for a few hours > and catching the train on its way back (missing the end of the journey) > or possibly even getting off the train for a full day and staying > somewhere on the journey? > (it would have to be really worth it and better than a day of > sightseeing in Christchurch that I'd have to cut out as a result) > > Thanks, > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP > 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand -- This Communication is Confidential. 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This is near Greymouth with walking tracks. http://golakebrunner.co.nz/walks/ If the Grey River is in flood and your visit co-insides with high tide continue to Greymouth walk along the sea wall to the mouth and be amazed at the fishing boats crossing the bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huhEWxW4XFE On 10.01.2019 13:18, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Howdy, > > I'm going to take the Tranzalpine to Greymouth and back in one day. > > Is it worth either stopping somehere before greymouth for a few hours > and catching the train on its way back (missing the end of the journey) > or possibly even getting off the train for a full day and staying > somewhere on the journey? > (it would have to be really worth it and better than a day of > sightseeing in Christchurch that I'd have to cut out as a result) > > Thanks, > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ [1] | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 Links: ------ [1] http://marc.merlins.org/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From president at linux.org.au Fri Jan 11 16:08:03 2019 From: president at linux.org.au (Linux Australia President) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:08:03 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of open hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 people in a technical role in Australia identifies as female / nonbinary and the statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender (pun intended) change. If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. Australia and New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and gender-diverse countries, and our membership - and, importantly - representation and participation - should be more reflective of that. If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after next. Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on delivering incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that are helping Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. Kind regards, Kathy On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > Sorry about the public message to one person! > > Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session > with the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you > were just testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) > > Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for > Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the > assembly session please get in touch with me right away. We need every > spot possible so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the > kit to another person. > > Thanks! > > Jon > -- Kathy Reid President Linux Australia 0418 130 636 president at linux.org.au http://linux.org.au Linux Australia Inc GPO Box 4788 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia ABN 56 987 117 479 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grant.byers at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 16:36:49 2019 From: grant.byers at gmail.com (Grant Byers) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 15:36:49 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but apparently you're already way oversubscribed? I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? Cheers Grant ?Sent from TypeApp ? On 11 Jan 2019, 15:12, at 15:12, Linux Australia President wrote: >I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days >left >in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. > >The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, >and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of >open hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 >people in a technical role in Australia identifies as female / >nonbinary >and the statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, >diversity. Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it >right. But as an organisation, a community, we are taking small steps >to >engender (pun intended) change. > >If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that >we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. >Australia and New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and >gender-diverse countries, and our membership - and, importantly - >representation and participation - should be more reflective of that. > >If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are >welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after >next. > >Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of >helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th >Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on >delivering incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that >are helping Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. > >Kind regards, > >Kathy > > >On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: >> Sorry about the public message to one person! >> >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session >> with the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you >> were just testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) >> >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for >> Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the >> assembly session please get in touch with me right away. We need >every >> spot possible so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the >> kit to another person. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jon >> >-- >Kathy Reid >President >Linux Australia > >0418 130 636 > >president at linux.org.au >http://linux.org.au > >Linux Australia Inc >GPO Box 4788 >Sydney NSW 2001 >Australia > >ABN 56 987 117 479 > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- >Chat mailing list >Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From j at jaesharp.com Fri Jan 11 16:48:05 2019 From: j at jaesharp.com (J Lynn) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 16:48:05 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Wide Area/Low Power Wireless Networking BoF? Message-ID: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> Would anyone be interested in a BoF session centered around a discussion of wide-area (possibly low power) wireless (mesh) networking technologies like LoRa(WAN)? Cheers - J From mcluseau at isi.nc Fri Jan 11 18:00:25 2019 From: mcluseau at isi.nc (=?UTF-8?Q?Mika=c3=abl_Cluseau?=) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 18:00:25 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Wide Area/Low Power Wireless Networking BoF? In-Reply-To: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> References: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> Message-ID: <1405eccf-d4f6-79c7-4bba-305709692dbe@isi.nc> On 1/11/19 4:48 PM, J Lynn wrote: > Would anyone be interested in a BoF session centered around a > discussion of wide-area (possibly low power) wireless (mesh) > networking technologies like LoRa(WAN)? Cheers - J I do :) From greguu at null.net Fri Jan 11 18:33:49 2019 From: greguu at null.net (Greg) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 20:33:49 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Same here mate, showed respect for the diversity campaign, waited...never got any second announcement. This morning I registered and now its oversubscribed. Of course I understand that there are limited seats and that is fine. I will not loose sleep over it, but the way this was handled seemed to be a bit too political correct for my taste. Instead, give really _anyone_ a chance, set a deadline and then shuf -n 32 registered-users.txt Invite the lucky ones and reshuffle the remaining seats if not claimed. On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 6:36 PM Grant Byers > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > Cheers > Grant > > Sent from TypeApp > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President wrote: >> >> I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. >> >> The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of open hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 people in a technical role in Australia identifies as female / nonbinary and the statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender (pun intended) change. >> >> If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. Australia and New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and gender-diverse countries, and our membership - and, importantly - representation and participation - should be more reflective of that. >> >> If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after next. >> >> Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on delivering incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that are helping Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Kathy >> >> >> On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: >> >> Sorry about the public message to one person! >> >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session with the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you were just testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) >> >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the assembly session please get in touch with me right away. We need every spot possible so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to another person. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jon >> >> -- >> Kathy Reid >> President >> Linux Australia >> >> 0418 130 636 >> >> president at linux.org.au >> http://linux.org.au >> >> Linux Australia Inc >> GPO Box 4788 >> Sydney NSW 2001 >> Australia >> >> ABN 56 987 117 479 >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From grant.byers at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 18:41:57 2019 From: grant.byers at gmail.com (Grant Byers) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 17:41:57 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah. Seems to me that the only people to miss out are those that are already mindful of the imbalance and respected the campaign. Not my cup of tea, but i'm not going to lose any sleep over it either. I'll just call it for what it is. Political nonsense. Cheers, Grant On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 17:34, Greg wrote: > Same here mate, > > showed respect for the diversity campaign, waited...never got any > second announcement. This morning I registered and now its > oversubscribed. > > Of course I understand that there are limited seats and that is fine. > I will not loose sleep over it, but the way this was handled seemed to > be a bit too political correct for my taste. > > Instead, give really _anyone_ a chance, set a deadline and then > > shuf -n 32 registered-users.txt > > Invite the lucky ones and reshuffle the remaining seats if not claimed. > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 6:36 PM Grant Byers > > > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before > attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but > apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > > > Cheers > > Grant > > > > Sent from TypeApp > > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President < > president at linux.org.au> wrote: > >> > >> I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days > left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. > >> > >> The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, > and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of open > hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 people in > a technical role in Australia identifies as female / nonbinary and the > statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. > Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an > organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender (pun > intended) change. > >> > >> If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that > we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. Australia > and New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and gender-diverse > countries, and our membership - and, importantly - representation and > participation - should be more reflective of that. > >> > >> If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are > welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after next. > >> > >> Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of > helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th > Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on delivering > incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that are helping > Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Kathy > >> > >> > >> On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > >> > >> Sorry about the public message to one person! > >> > >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session with > the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you were just > testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) > >> > >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for > Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the assembly > session please get in touch with me right away. We need every spot possible > so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to another person. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> -- > >> Kathy Reid > >> President > >> Linux Australia > >> > >> 0418 130 636 > >> > >> president at linux.org.au > >> http://linux.org.au > >> > >> Linux Australia Inc > >> GPO Box 4788 > >> Sydney NSW 2001 > >> Australia > >> > >> ABN 56 987 117 479 > >> > >> -- > >> Chat mailing list > >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tserong at suse.com Fri Jan 11 22:31:58 2019 From: tserong at suse.com (Tim Serong) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 22:31:58 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6a4b32ca-fff2-d168-5a1e-f54f187dcae6@suse.com> I didn't see a second announce email either -- maybe it was oversubscribed on the first day already with "non white guys"? And if that happened, then that's an excellent outcome. Attempting to improve diversity and inclusivity is important. Could this have been wrangled better? Maybe. But it is *not* political nonsense. Tim On 01/11/2019 06:41 PM, Grant Byers wrote: > Yeah. Seems to me that the only people to miss out are those that are > already mindful of the imbalance and respected the campaign. Not my cup > of tea, but i'm not going to lose any sleep over it either. > > I'll just call it for what it is. Political nonsense. > > Cheers, > Grant > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 17:34, Greg > wrote: > > Same here mate, > > showed respect for the diversity campaign, waited...never got any > second announcement. This morning I registered and now its > oversubscribed. > > Of course I understand that there are limited seats and that is fine. > I will not loose sleep over it, but the way this was handled seemed to > be a bit too political correct for my taste. > > Instead, give really _anyone_ a chance, set a deadline and then > > shuf -n 32 registered-users.txt > > Invite the lucky ones and reshuffle the remaining seats if not claimed. > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 6:36 PM Grant Byers wrote: > > > > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before > attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but > apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > > > Cheers > > Grant > > > > Sent from TypeApp > > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President > > wrote: > >> > >> I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 > days left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. > >> > >> The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux > Australia, and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and > inclusivity of open hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. > Less than one in 5 people in a technical role in Australia > identifies as female / nonbinary and the statistics are even poorer > for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. Diversity and > inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an > organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender > (pun intended) change. > >> > >> If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact > that we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us > uncomfortable. Australia and New Zealand are multicultural, > ethnically, socially and gender-diverse countries, and our > membership - and, importantly - representation and participation - > should be more reflective of that. > >> > >> If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they > are welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week > after next. > >> > >> Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued > team of helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a > kick-ass 10th Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need > to keep on delivering incredible, inspirational and aspirational > experiences that are helping Australia and New Zealand become open > source leaders. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Kathy > >> > >> > >> On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > >> > >> Sorry about the public message to one person! > >> > >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly > session with the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. > If you were just testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your > help :-) > >> > >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name > for Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend > the assembly session please get in touch with me right away. We need > every spot possible so unless you get in touch we'll need to > reassign the kit to another person. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> -- > >> Kathy Reid > >> President > >> Linux Australia > >> > >> 0418 130 636 > >> > >> president at linux.org.au > >> http://linux.org.au > >> > >> Linux Australia Inc > >> GPO Box 4788 > >> Sydney NSW 2001 > >> Australia > >> > >> ABN 56 987 117 479 > >> > >> -- > >> Chat mailing list > >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > From jon at oxer.com.au Fri Jan 11 22:32:28 2019 From: jon at oxer.com.au (Jonathan Oxer) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 22:32:28 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Grant, Unfortunately I've been trying to squeeze OHMC prep in around work obligations, so on the morning that general rego opened I was with a client and didn't have a chance to send the announcement. By the time I got to my computer there were already more registrations than we have places, so it was too late to post to the list. Sorry :-( Jon On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:36, Grant Byers wrote: > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before > attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but > apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > Cheers > Grant > > Sent from TypeApp > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President < > president at linux.org.au> wrote: >> >> I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days left >> in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. >> >> The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, and >> LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of open >> hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 people in >> a technical role in Australia identifies as female / nonbinary and the >> statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. >> Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an >> organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender (pun >> intended) change. >> >> If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that we're >> mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. Australia and >> New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and gender-diverse >> countries, and our membership - and, importantly - representation and >> participation - should be more reflective of that. >> >> If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are >> welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after next. >> >> Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of >> helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th >> Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on delivering >> incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that are helping >> Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Kathy >> >> >> On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: >> >> Sorry about the public message to one person! >> >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session with >> the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you were just >> testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) >> >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for Mr >> Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the assembly >> session please get in touch with me right away. We need every spot possible >> so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to another person. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Jon >> >> -- >> Kathy Reid >> President >> Linux Australia >> >> 0418 130 636 >> president at linux.org.auhttp://linux.org.au >> >> Linux Australia Inc >> GPO Box 4788 >> Sydney NSW 2001 >> Australia >> >> ABN 56 987 117 479 >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From grant.byers at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 22:41:00 2019 From: grant.byers at gmail.com (Grant Byers) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:41:00 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <538d45142f421cbbaee79ffa0528a7d1b724a53b.camel@gmail.com> Although if you want to pick and choose, the first announcement also said "We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up registrations for everyone.". Not so subtly, the point is that this was poorly executed on several levels. For one, it doesn't make sense to hold an event that's touting inclusion whilst also being highly exclusive. I do hope it's handled differently next year. Perhaps some sponsored positions to even the gap? On Sat, 2019-01-12 at 00:14 +1300, Rashmica Gupta wrote: > The first announcement did say "So this year we are asking that our valued, > keen, but highly over-represented male attendees patiently wait until > Thursday, 10th January 2019 before registering." > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 10:55 PM Greg > Same here mate, > > > > > > > > showed respect for the diversity campaign, waited...never got any > > > > second announcement. This morning I registered and now its > > > > oversubscribed. > > > > > > > > Of course I understand that there are limited seats and that is fine. > > > > I will not loose sleep over it, but the way this was handled seemed to > > > > be a bit too political correct for my taste. > > > > > > > > Instead, give really _anyone_ a chance, set a deadline and then > > > > > > > > shuf -n 32 registered-users.txt > > > > > > > > Invite the lucky ones and reshuffle the remaining seats if not claimed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 6:36 PM Grant Byers > > > > > > > > > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > > > > > > > > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before > > attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but > > apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > > > > > > > > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > Grant > > > > > > > > > > Sent from TypeApp > > > > > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President < > > president at linux.org.au> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days > > left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. > > > > >> > > > > >> The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, > > and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of > > open hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 > > people in a technical role in Australia identifies as female / nonbinary > > and the statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, > > diversity. Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. > > But as an organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender > > (pun intended) change. > > > > >> > > > > >> If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that > > we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. Australia > > and New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and gender-diverse > > countries, and our membership - and, importantly - representation and > > participation - should be more reflective of that. > > > > >> > > > > >> If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are > > welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after next. > > > > >> > > > > >> Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of > > helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th > > Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on > > delivering incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that are > > helping Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. > > > > >> > > > > >> Kind regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Kathy > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Sorry about the public message to one person! > > > > >> > > > > >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session with > > the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you were just > > testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) > > > > >> > > > > >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for > > Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the > > assembly session please get in touch with me right away. We need every > > spot possible so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to > > another person. > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks! > > > > >> > > > > >> Jon > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Kathy Reid > > > > >> President > > > > >> Linux Australia > > > > >> > > > > >> 0418 130 636 > > > > >> > > > > >> president at linux.org.au > > > > >> http://linux.org.au > > > > >> > > > > >> Linux Australia Inc > > > > >> GPO Box 4788 > > > > >> Sydney NSW 2001 > > > > >> Australia > > > > >> > > > > >> ABN 56 987 117 479 > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Chat mailing list > > > > >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Chat mailing list > > > > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From grant.byers at gmail.com Fri Jan 11 22:52:54 2019 From: grant.byers at gmail.com (Grant Byers) Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 21:52:54 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Carry on Jon. I'm sure you have a lot on your plate. There's always next year. On Fri, 2019-01-11 at 22:32 +1100, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > Hi Grant, > Unfortunately I've been trying to squeeze OHMC prep in around work > obligations, so on the morning that general rego opened I was with a client > and didn't have a chance to send the announcement. By the time I got to my > computer there were already more registrations than we have places, so it > was too late to post to the list. > > Sorry :-( > > Jon > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 16:36, Grant Byers wrote: > > > > > > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > > > > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before > > attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but > > apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > > > > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Grant > > > > > > Sent from TypeApp > > > > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President < > > president at linux.org.au> wrote: > > > > > > I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 > > > days left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. > > > > > > > > > The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux > > > Australia, and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and > > > inclusivity of open hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. > > > Less than one in 5 people in a technical role in Australia > > > identifies as female / nonbinary and the statistics are even > > > poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. Diversity and > > > inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an > > > organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender > > > (pun intended) change. > > > > > > > > > If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact > > > that we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us > > > uncomfortable. Australia and New Zealand are multicultural, > > > ethnically, socially and gender-diverse countries, and our > > > membership - and, importantly - representation and participation - > > > should be more reflective of that. > > > > > > > > > If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they > > > are welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week > > > after next. > > > > > > > > > Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued > > > team of helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a > > > kick-ass 10th Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they > > > need to keep on delivering incredible, inspirational and > > > aspirational experiences that are helping Australia and New > > > Zealand become open source leaders. > > > > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about the public message to one person! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly > > > > session with the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email > > > > address. If you were just testing the system, that's fine, > > > > thanks for your help :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an > > > > actual name for Mr Non White, so if that was you and you > > > > really want to attend the assembly session please get in > > > > touch > > > > with me right away. We need every spot possible so unless > > > > you > > > > get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to another > > > > person. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Kathy ReidPresidentLinux Australia > > > 0418 130 636 > > > president at linux.org.au > > > http://linux.org.au > > > > > > Linux Australia IncGPO Box 4788Sydney NSW 2001Australia > > > ABN 56 987 117 479 > > > > > > -- > > > Chat mailing list > > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 10:55 PM Greg Same here mate, > > showed respect for the diversity campaign, waited...never got any > second announcement. This morning I registered and now its > oversubscribed. > > Of course I understand that there are limited seats and that is fine. > I will not loose sleep over it, but the way this was handled seemed to > be a bit too political correct for my taste. > > Instead, give really _anyone_ a chance, set a deadline and then > > shuf -n 32 registered-users.txt > > Invite the lucky ones and reshuffle the remaining seats if not claimed. > > > > On Fri, 11 Jan 2019, 6:36 PM Grant Byers > > > Did I miss the "white guy registrations now open" announcement? > > > > I did the right thing and waited for the 2nd announcement before > attempting to enroll. I'm still waiting for that announcement, but > apparently you're already way oversubscribed? > > > > I lost the subsequent announcement in my inbox, didn't I? > > > > Cheers > > Grant > > > > Sent from TypeApp > > On 11 Jan 2019, at 15:12, Linux Australia President < > president at linux.org.au> wrote: > >> > >> I'm probably pouring some fuel on the flames here, but with 10 days > left in the chair, I'm going to take that risk. > >> > >> The Open Hardware Miniconf, with the full backing of Linux Australia, > and LCA2019, is attempting to improve the diversity and inclusivity of open > hardware hacking in Australia and New Zealand. Less than one in 5 people in > a technical role in Australia identifies as female / nonbinary and the > statistics are even poorer for ethnic, especially Indigenous, diversity. > Diversity and inclusion is hard. We don't always get it right. But as an > organisation, a community, we are taking small steps to engender (pun > intended) change. > >> > >> If this makes you uncomfortable, well, frankly, good. The fact that > we're mostly lily-white and male *should* make us uncomfortable. Australia > and New Zealand are multicultural, ethnically, socially and gender-diverse > countries, and our membership - and, importantly - representation and > participation - should be more reflective of that. > >> > >> If anyone has an issue with the way OHMC are handling this, they are > welcome to take it up with me personally in Christchurch week after next. > >> > >> Right now, Andy, Jon and their invisible but incredibly valued team of > helpers are doing Some Amazing Things to bring you a kick-ass 10th > Anniversary OHMC. Let's give them the space they need to keep on delivering > incredible, inspirational and aspirational experiences that are helping > Australia and New Zealand become open source leaders. > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> > >> Kathy > >> > >> > >> On 10/1/19 8:28 pm, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > >> > >> Sorry about the public message to one person! > >> > >> Someone registered for the Open Hardware Miniconf assembly session with > the name "Mr Non White", and an invalid email address. If you were just > testing the system, that's fine, thanks for your help :-) > >> > >> Unfortunately we don't have any contact details or an actual name for > Mr Non White, so if that was you and you really want to attend the assembly > session please get in touch with me right away. We need every spot possible > so unless you get in touch we'll need to reassign the kit to another person. > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> -- > >> Kathy Reid > >> President > >> Linux Australia > >> > >> 0418 130 636 > >> > >> president at linux.org.au > >> http://linux.org.au > >> > >> Linux Australia Inc > >> GPO Box 4788 > >> Sydney NSW 2001 > >> Australia > >> > >> ABN 56 987 117 479 > >> > >> -- > >> Chat mailing list > >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <242456e1-b864-6293-bd71-1f976d060b26@lca2019.org> Hello open source lovers! At this time next week many of you will already be in our fine city, preparing for a week of fun! We're looking forward to it all! Please read all of the below. There's a reminder about registration details and news about cool things we've got arranged - all especially for you. Registration ============ Please take a moment TODAY to ensure you have completed registration. Not completing this could mean you miss out on getting T-shirts and could miss out going to certain dinner and evening events that your ticket might otherwise entitle you for. Please also ensure you have any dietary requirements listed in your delegate profile, including partners and children. You need to have done this by the end of January 14 NZDT as we need to give all our caterers a heads up to what's required. Airport Registration Desk ========================= Are you arriving at Christchurch Airport on Friday January 18th or Saturday January 19th? If you are then please drop by and see us at our registration desk! At the desk you'll be able to grab your conference badge (if you've got your registration completed!) and get a little help finding transport to your accommodation. We've also got maps, of the paper variety, showing you the area around the university to help you find your way. We won't have swag bags at the airport but these can be collected at the registration desk at the conference venue from Sunday afternoon. Our desk will be based on the ground floor of the airport terminal in the area marked "bag claim area gates 16-22a" at the top of this map https://www.christchurchairport.co.nz/media/871428/cial_ground_floor_map_july_2018_rgb.pdf If you're coming via an international flight, this means making a right turn as your emerge into the arrival lounge and making a short walk until you see us. We'll have pop-up banners with our logo on the ground level in the domestic and international arrival area to let you know you've arrived in the correct city. :) We'll run the desk for as late as we can in the evening because we know that a lot people will be arriving around midnight. UC Recreation Centre ==================== Sometimes you hear about people joining a gym for their New Year's resolution in a bid to improve their health. If you're worried that being at linux.conf.au for a week is going to mess with your plans then here's a solution for you. As a special deal for linux.conf.au delegates, you can sign up at the University of Canterbury Recreation Centre for a week! Here's the details: * NZD$15 from Sunday January 20 until Saturday January 26, no matter when during the week you purchase the pass * Open to partners if they come at the same time as the registered delegate * Not available to people under 16 years old * Towels can be hired. Sweat towels are 50 cents, shower towels are $1 * The recreation centre is open 6am to 10pm, Monday to Friday and 9am to 9am Saturday and Sundays To sign up, take your photo ID and a copy of this email or your linux.conf.au conference badge to the front desk of the Rec Centre. For more information, check out https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/ucreccentre/ or email Dee Mrkusich dee.mrkusich at canterbury.ac.nz E-ALE ===== This year at linux.conf.au, the ALE team are presenting tutorials on several subjects, including embedded, IOT, cloud, security, and licensing topics. ALE, the Apprentice Linux Engineer track, is a tutorial series driven by volunteer professional speakers who present apprentice-level material in a way that beginners can understand and use the information. Most tutorials also provide hands-on training, usually with embedded hardware designed and built by ALE volunteers - this is the only associated cost, other than conference attendance fees. ALE made its debut at SCALE 16x in 2018 as E-ALE (Embedded). Since then it has also grown to include IOT, Cloud, and Linux kernel subject matter at a variety of conferences worldwide. Check the schedule for details and make sure to buy your board with registration. Look out for information coming in the next day or two on our website with a timetable of talks and how you can sign up for a workshop. Sponsorship =========== Another aspect of linux.conf.au that is so instrumental are our sponsors. We are so grateful to the sponsors that have signed up so far who show their support for linux.conf.au and open source. At the moment we've been unable to find anyone who wants to sponsor the coffee cart. This means no free barista coffee or hot chocolate! Gasp! If you want to rectify this please get in touch with our sponsors coordinator at sponsors at lca2019.org ASAP. We've also got opportunities around sponsoring childcare too. On behalf of the organising team... -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ From wes at sol1.com.au Sat Jan 12 11:23:57 2019 From: wes at sol1.com.au (Wes Cilldhaire) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 11:23:57 +1100 (AEDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Mr Non White Guy for the Open Hardware Miniconf In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <943386580.254566.1547252637610.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> ----- On 11 Jan, 2019, at 10:14 PM, Rashmica Gupta rashmicy at gmail.com wrote: > The first announcement did say "So this year we are asking that our valued, > keen, but highly over-represented male attendees patiently wait until Thursday, > 10th January 2019 before registering." > It did also later constrain the time Thursday somewhat by saying both 'evening' and that there would be an announcement to officially open it: "We?ll send another email on Thursday evening to open up registrations for everyone." I can totally understand why people would be upset by being caught out by this miscommunication when they feel they were just trying to do the right thing and respect the efforts of the OHMC team. I hope they continue these efforts in the future, though formalizing the process and being a little more explicit with the opening times when communicating that process would probably help a lot. (null) From hamster at snap.net.nz Sat Jan 12 12:27:29 2019 From: hamster at snap.net.nz (hamster at snap.net.nz) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 14:27:29 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Interest in H/W and at loose end on Monday morning? Message-ID: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> If anybody is at a loose end while the car build is in progress, I can bring in my collection of excess ESP32 development boards (dual core, WiFi, Bluetooth...) for people to play with, as an informal gathering outside of LCA. Either set up the ESP-IDF 'C' SDK and play with the demos, or I can flash some of them with micropython. Don't expect anything too technical - just getting an LED to blink, 'hello world' on the serial console. and maybe getting the WiFi to work. I've got about a dozen boards in my stash, but not enough microUSB cables so you will need your own. You could convince me to part with a board for $20. Reply all or email me if interest, or can suggest a place to do this. Cheers Mike From jason at dickson.st Sat Jan 12 14:13:27 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 14:13:27 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Interest in H/W and at loose end on Monday morning? In-Reply-To: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> (sfid-20190112_122756_265362_FFFFFFFF88A05B8F) References: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> (sfid-20190112_122756_265362_FFFFFFFF88A05B8F) Message-ID: Hi Mike, I also have a bunch of these and would be happy to join you to have a play and discussion Jason > On 12 Jan 2019, at 12:27 pm, "hamster at snap.net.nz" wrote: > > If anybody is at a loose end while the car build is in progress, I can bring in my collection of excess ESP32 development boards (dual core, WiFi, Bluetooth...) for people to play with, as an informal gathering outside of LCA. > > Either set up the ESP-IDF 'C' SDK and play with the demos, or I can flash some of them with micropython. > > Don't expect anything too technical - just getting an LED to blink, 'hello world' on the serial console. and maybe getting the WiFi to work. > > I've got about a dozen boards in my stash, but not enough microUSB cables so you will need your own. You could convince me to part with a board for $20. > > Reply all or email me if interest, or can suggest a place to do this. > > Cheers > > Mike > > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > From amitay at gmail.com Sat Jan 12 15:20:34 2019 From: amitay at gmail.com (Amitay Isaacs) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 15:20:34 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Wide Area/Low Power Wireless Networking BoF? In-Reply-To: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> References: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:25 PM J Lynn wrote: > > Would anyone be interested in a BoF session centered around a discussion > of wide-area (possibly low power) wireless (mesh) networking > technologies like LoRa(WAN)? Cheers - J I'm interested too. Amitay. From j at jaesharp.com Sat Jan 12 17:03:59 2019 From: j at jaesharp.com (J Lynn) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 17:03:59 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Wide Area/Low Power Wireless Networking BoF? In-Reply-To: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> References: <15c5ef04-8035-392b-29c3-8e2a4384a71e@jaesharp.com> Message-ID: Great to see so much interest on the list! I've created a BoF page on the wiki at https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Wireless_(Low_Power)_WAN_BoF and welcome everyone to contribute and/or edit as they see fit. Sometime over the next week we'll finalise a place, date and time that works for (hopefully) everyone. Cheers - J On 11/1/19 4:48 pm, J Lynn wrote: > Would anyone be interested in a BoF session centered around a discussion > of wide-area (possibly low power) wireless (mesh) networking > technologies like LoRa(WAN)? Cheers - J From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Sat Jan 12 19:03:40 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 21:03:40 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Bring your reusable shopping bags Message-ID: <4e26520e-c570-55a7-f05f-90e73a2b98da@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> As a reminder to visitors from outside New Zealand: as of 2019-01-01 most of the major supermarkets have stopped providing single use (plastic) shopping bags at the counters, eg, https://www.newworld.co.nz/about-us/were-single-use-plastic-bag-free-from-1-january-2019/ https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2018/08/pak-nsave-new-world-four-square-liquorland-to-ban-plastic-bags-in-2019.html So they're expecting that either you're only buying 1-2 items and can carry them in your hands, or that you'll bring your own reusable shopping bags. (Most of them currently have prominently displayed multi-use shopping bags for sale too, since this is a pretty new change of policy....) Off the top of my head this is standard in, at least some Australian cities, and a bunch of other places outside New Zealand. So I expect many of you are used to this practice. But I thought it was worth a reminder, as it's perhaps not the first thing that comes to mind to pack for international travel :-) Ewen From russell at coker.com.au Sat Jan 12 20:10:21 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 20:10:21 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Fwd: [Mail Delivery System] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Message-ID: <12794508.VUdpRnnIYJ@xev> Who is running the LCA mailing list? Can someone please fix this? ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [Mail Delivery System] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Date: Saturday, 12 January 2019, 6:53:35 PM AEDT From: Brian May To: russell at coker.com.au Hello Rusell, Just wondering if you had any ideas on how to get somebody to fix this problem that prevents me emailing the LCA2019 mailing list? : host lists.lca2019.linux.org.au[192.55.98.181] said: 554 5.7.1 : Sender address rejected: We reject all .xyz domains (in reply to RCPT TO command) I tried sending a message via twitter, but so far no response :-( https://twitter.com/penguin_brian/status/1083524881650577410 I guess I could try chat-owner at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au however I am guessing that might be blocked.... Thanks ----------------------------------------- -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> Message-ID: <19588656.J3cJimUy4A@rata> I give these away as kits to kids here in Dunedin ~$5 a piece in quantity - I'll come and talk too Paul On Saturday, 12 January 2019 4:13:27 PM NZDT Jason Lewis wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I also have a bunch of these and would be happy to join you to have a play > and discussion > > Jason > > > On 12 Jan 2019, at 12:27 pm, "hamster at snap.net.nz" > > wrote: > > > > If anybody is at a loose end while the car build is in progress, I can > > bring in my collection of excess ESP32 development boards (dual core, > > WiFi, Bluetooth...) for people to play with, as an informal gathering > > outside of LCA. > > > > Either set up the ESP-IDF 'C' SDK and play with the demos, or I can flash > > some of them with micropython. > > > > Don't expect anything too technical - just getting an LED to blink, 'hello > > world' on the serial console. and maybe getting the WiFi to work. > > > > I've got about a dozen boards in my stash, but not enough microUSB cables > > so you will need your own. You could convince me to part with a board for > > $20. > > > > Reply all or email me if interest, or can suggest a place to do this. > > > > Cheers > > > > Mike From tomas at libre.nz Sun Jan 13 12:38:04 2019 From: tomas at libre.nz (Tomas Maggio) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 14:38:04 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Interest in H/W and at loose end on Monday morning? In-Reply-To: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> ; <19588656.J3cJimUy4A@rata>; References: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> ; <19588656.J3cJimUy4A@rata>; Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- I'm in. Tomas -- Sent from my phone On January 13, 2019 12:59:19 AM GMT+13:00, Paul Campbell wrote: >I give these away as kits to kids here in Dunedin ~$5 a piece in >quantity - >I'll come and talk too > > Paul > >On Saturday, 12 January 2019 4:13:27 PM NZDT Jason Lewis wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I also have a bunch of these and would be happy to join you to have a >play >> and discussion >> >> Jason >> >> > On 12 Jan 2019, at 12:27 pm, "hamster at snap.net.nz" > >> > wrote: >> > >> > If anybody is at a loose end while the car build is in progress, I >can >> > bring in my collection of excess ESP32 development boards (dual >core, >> > WiFi, Bluetooth...) for people to play with, as an informal >gathering >> > outside of LCA. >> > >> > Either set up the ESP-IDF 'C' SDK and play with the demos, or I can >flash >> > some of them with micropython. >> > >> > Don't expect anything too technical - just getting an LED to blink, >'hello >> > world' on the serial console. and maybe getting the WiFi to work. >> > >> > I've got about a dozen boards in my stash, but not enough microUSB >cables >> > so you will need your own. You could convince me to part with a >board for >> > $20. >> > >> > Reply all or email me if interest, or can suggest a place to do >this. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Mike > > >-- >Chat mailing list >Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pEpkey.asc Type: application/pgp-keys Size: 3817 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bam at debian.org Sun Jan 13 13:24:17 2019 From: bam at debian.org (Brian May) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 13:24:17 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport Message-ID: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... -- Brian May -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... 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That's close to where the buses are leaving from :) Cheers On 13/01/19 3:24 pm, Brian May wrote: > Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... > > > From hugh at blemings.org Sun Jan 13 15:50:25 2019 From: hugh at blemings.org (Hugh Blemings) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 15:50:25 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] OpenPOWER BoF Session Message-ID: <352630ee-8c46-fe59-d0c3-ff66fe48d29f@blemings.org> Hiya, We had a good amount of interest around the BoF we ran on OpenPOWER [0] in Sydney so I thought it would make sense to do one in Christchurch. Tentatively scheduled for Thursday [1] I'll bring along a pre-production micro-ATX "Blackbird" mobo from Raptor [2] for people to look at and some stickers or other OpenPOWER schwag :) If you're interested please add your name to the Wiki, should have room details etc. squared away shortly. Cheers, Hugh [0] For those unfamiliar with OpenPOWER - it's one of if not the most open high performance platforms out there at present and a direct descendant of PowerPC. On designs like the Blackbird you get an open hardware design and entirely open software stack BIOS to OS to Apps. Full disclosure - I work for the OpenPOWER Foundation :) https://openpowerfoundation.org [1] https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/OpenPOWER_BoF [2] https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/BK1B01/intro.html From chair at lca2019.org Sun Jan 13 16:22:14 2019 From: chair at lca2019.org (Steven Sykes) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 18:22:14 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <061f868e-2eda-2240-b9dd-9d096f602812@lca2019.org> Hey Brian, There is indeed an ATM at the airport, plus the usual currency exchange places. For an ATM, look at this map: https://www.christchurchairport.co.nz/media/871428/cial_ground_floor_map_july_2018_rgb.pdf On 13/01/19 3:24 PM, Brian May wrote: > Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... > > > > > Hello, > > Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. > > Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? > > Thanks? > > -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ From ross at drummond.co.nz Sun Jan 13 16:52:26 2019 From: ross at drummond.co.nz (Ross Drummond) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 05:52:26 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) Commonwealth Bank = ASB On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: > Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... > > Hello, > > Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. > > Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? > > Thanks? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hamster at snap.net.nz Sun Jan 13 18:05:55 2019 From: hamster at snap.net.nz (hamster at snap.net.nz) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 20:05:55 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <-glxfy0-8clwd0if9voq-6lowwkru90fwpocqcth2u7lhuvu6wiqvjzk3-dhqesmadeymu-bdqg50qydtsyb21hmzsfkqm7-kcbfks7e6larorj181xpmveh-4fkh4m-sjsqvkndas7kfl3edt-h99vcw.1547362938222@email.android.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers Uday On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply > to the NZ ATM's atirport. > > Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks > > Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. > > NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) > > Commonwealth Bank = ASB > > On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: > > Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... > > > Hello, > > Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not > possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which > means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. > > Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. > What is the best place to get NZD? 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On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 9:26 pm Brian May Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... > > -- > Brian May > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Brian May > To: chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 10:37:19 +1100 > Subject: Bus from airport > > Hello, > > Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not > possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which > means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. > > Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. > What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? > > Thanks? > > -- > Brian May > https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Will we need to wear jackets inside or will shorts and t- shirt (the most suitable clothing for outside according to the weather forecast last time I checked) be ok for the entire day? -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From steve at nerdvana.org.au Mon Jan 14 00:23:20 2019 From: steve at nerdvana.org.au (Steve Walsh) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 00:23:20 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <5e0dd5a3-1ed8-aa6d-8805-4c6da3bdab20@nerdvana.org.au> Whilst I'm sure everyone already has, this is Just a general reminder for everyone to check your bank doesn't prefer you to tell them if you're traveling overseas. Nothing kills your enjoyment of LCA faster than to have your bank cancel and re-issue your ATM and/or Credit card when you try to buy your breakfast on your first day, or a bus ticket on your first night. On 13/1/19 1:24 pm, Brian May wrote: > Subject: > Bus from airport > From: > Brian May > Date: > 11/1/19, 10:37 am > > To: > chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > Hello, > > Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is > not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, > which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. > > Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD > cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch > airport? > > Thanks? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as "#%@#! freezing, one notch above winter". So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on the day. Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold fronts sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a Southerly (like right now)... it will be substantially cold(er). Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... the peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a wind chill of -6 at the moment. But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes wrote: > > On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > > How much going outside will be involved at this one and how effective will air- > conditioners be? Will we need to wear jackets inside or will shorts and t- > shirt (the most suitable clothing for outside according to the weather > forecast last time I checked) be ok for the entire day? > > The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the sun, > assuming it shows itself. > > Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: > > https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city > > And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T-shirt > with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through. > > Cheers, > -- > Steven Sykes > > Chair, LCA 2019 > Twitter: @linuxconfau > Web: linux.conf.au/ > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand -- This Communication is Confidential. 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Even the ?Antarctic experience? in the Antarctic Centre at -18 is an improvement ;) Cheers, Kristoffer > On 14 Jan 2019, at 08:45, John Carter wrote: > > I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of temperature.... > > At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C. > > Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as "#%@#! freezing, one notch above winter". > > So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on the day. > > Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold fronts sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a Southerly (like right now)... it will be substantially cold(er). > > Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) > > If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... the peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a wind chill of -6 at the moment. > > But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. > > >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes wrote: >> >>> On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: >>> How much going outside will be involved at this one and how effective will air- >>> conditioners be? Will we need to wear jackets inside or will shorts and t- >>> shirt (the most suitable clothing for outside according to the weather >>> forecast last time I checked) be ok for the entire day? >> The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the sun, assuming it shows itself. >> >> Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: >> >> https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city >> >> And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T-shirt with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> Steven Sykes >> Chair, LCA 2019 >> Twitter: @linuxconfau >> Web: linux.conf.au/ >> >> <2019Logo-mini.png> >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > John Carter > Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 > Tait Electronics > PO Box 1645 Christchurch > New Zealand > > > This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the > basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 14 07:49:43 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:49:43 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] temperature in the conference In-Reply-To: <2737345.1c9c6uBInK@liv> References: <2737345.1c9c6uBInK@liv> Message-ID: <6df42c0a-d1bc-971a-2875-be3c74be3f68@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 2019-01-14 02:21, Russell Coker wrote: > Some LCAs have been held on an outdoors based campus where you have to walk > around outside between lectures. Some have been held mostly indoors, there > was one in Tasmania where we hardly saw the sun from 9-5. I believe LCA2019 is being held mainly in two buildings at the University of Canterbury: Central Lecture Theatres, and North Arts. https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/maps/home shows what looks like a short outdoor walk between them, as well as an outdoor lawn in between should one have a chance to sit in the sun. So depending on your choice of schedule, and the weather, there should be opportunities to see the sun. For clothing planning purposes, I'd suggest thinking of New Zealand as Tasmania -- a relatively isolated (set of) islands, with not much between it and Antarctica. In summer, with no wind / wind from the north, it can be reasonable warm (20-30C), but not "Australia hot". In summer, with wind from the south, it can be relatively cool (eg, 12-15C). And it can change in a matter of hours. I've just put a heater on here in Wellington (13C currently), and Christchurch looks even cooler today (11C currently). (A couple of days ago I was trying to air the house out to cool it down...) If you're the sort of person who happily wears shorts in winter (I have some friends like that...) you'll be fine. If not, you might want to pack a change of clothes with options for cooler weather, as well as shorts/t-shirts. (And it looks like overnight lows are around 10-15C on the current long range forecast.) Ewen PS: So far it's seeming a relatively wet summer, so packing a rain jacket is probably a good idea too. From cherieellisnz at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 08:40:14 2019 From: cherieellisnz at gmail.com (Cherie Ellis) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:40:14 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] temperature in the conference In-Reply-To: <6df42c0a-d1bc-971a-2875-be3c74be3f68@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> References: <2737345.1c9c6uBInK@liv> <6df42c0a-d1bc-971a-2875-be3c74be3f68@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> Message-ID: here's the 10 day forecast as of today: https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city#!/ten-day Cherie On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 09:50, Ewen McNeill wrote: > On 2019-01-14 02:21, Russell Coker wrote: > > Some LCAs have been held on an outdoors based campus where you have to > walk > > around outside between lectures. Some have been held mostly indoors, > there > > was one in Tasmania where we hardly saw the sun from 9-5. > > I believe LCA2019 is being held mainly in two buildings at the > University of Canterbury: Central Lecture Theatres, and North Arts. > > https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/maps/home > > shows what looks like a short outdoor walk between them, as well as an > outdoor lawn in between should one have a chance to sit in the sun. So > depending on your choice of schedule, and the weather, there should be > opportunities to see the sun. > > For clothing planning purposes, I'd suggest thinking of New Zealand as > Tasmania -- a relatively isolated (set of) islands, with not much > between it and Antarctica. In summer, with no wind / wind from the > north, it can be reasonable warm (20-30C), but not "Australia hot". In > summer, with wind from the south, it can be relatively cool (eg, > 12-15C). And it can change in a matter of hours. I've just put a > heater on here in Wellington (13C currently), and Christchurch looks > even cooler today (11C currently). (A couple of days ago I was trying > to air the house out to cool it down...) > > If you're the sort of person who happily wears shorts in winter (I have > some friends like that...) you'll be fine. If not, you might want to > pack a change of clothes with options for cooler weather, as well as > shorts/t-shirts. (And it looks like overnight lows are around 10-15C on > the current long range forecast.) > > Ewen > > PS: So far it's seeming a relatively wet summer, so packing a rain > jacket is probably a good idea too. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Cherie Ellis +64 21 293 9746 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at donnellan.id.au Mon Jan 14 08:55:02 2019 From: andrew at donnellan.id.au (Andrew Donnellan) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:55:02 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:51 William Mckee Hi, > > Is it possible to buy one at the airport with visa? If so you could buy a > card from the shops at the airport with your au visa card. > You can't buy a Christchurch Metrocard at the airport at all. Relatedly, the cash fare for the airport bus is 4x the Metrocard fare for the same bus... Andrew > Cheers, > > William. > > > On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 9:26 pm Brian May >> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >> >> -- >> Brian May >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Brian May >> To: chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2019 10:37:19 +1100 >> Subject: Bus from airport >> >> Hello, >> >> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not >> possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which >> means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >> >> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. >> What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? >> >> Thanks? >> >> -- >> Brian May >> https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew at donnellan.id.au Mon Jan 14 09:10:36 2019 From: andrew at donnellan.id.au (Andrew Donnellan) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:10:36 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As long > as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. > Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) Andrew > Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. > > Cheers > Uday > > On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond >> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply >> to the NZ ATM's atirport. >> >> Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks >> >> Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. >> >> NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) >> >> Commonwealth Bank = ASB >> >> On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: >> >> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >> >> >> Hello, >> >> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not >> possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which >> means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >> >> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. >> What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? >> >> Thanks? >> >> >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eion at robbmob.com Mon Jan 14 09:19:08 2019 From: eion at robbmob.com (Eion Robb) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:19:08 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on where you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner store/dairy) that won't support credit cards. 90% of places that support credit card will only support Visa and Mastercard. In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday >> I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As long >> as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. >> > > Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New > Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. > It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards > in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. > > The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept > Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a > store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit > cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way > to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. > > (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and > still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) > > > Andrew > > >> Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. >> >> Cheers >> Uday >> >> On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond > >>> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply >>> to the NZ ATM's atirport. >>> >>> Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks >>> >>> Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. >>> >>> NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) >>> >>> Commonwealth Bank = ASB >>> >>> On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: >>> >>> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is >>> not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, >>> which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >>> >>> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD >>> cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? >>> >>> Thanks? >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linuxconf at libertysys.com.au Mon Jan 14 09:26:54 2019 From: linuxconf at libertysys.com.au (Paul Gear) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:26:54 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: <5e8d965a-70e2-8cad-e79d-c847e7210c3d@libertysys.com.au> On 14/1/19 8:19 am, Eion Robb wrote: > As a Kiwi, can confirm.? Credit cards can be optional depending on > where you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner > store/dairy) that won't support credit cards. ... where "dairy" has the NZ meaning: "place where milk is sold" rather than the Australian meaning of "place where milk is extracted from cows".? A couple of NZ expats who attended the residential college I attended in Tasmania (which had a working dairy farm) were once sent to the dairy to get the milk, and the cook wondered why they took so long, and came back with no milk.? :-) From sellis at redhat.com Mon Jan 14 09:29:27 2019 From: sellis at redhat.com (Steven Ellis) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:29:27 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google payment. On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb wrote: > As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on where > you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner store/dairy) that > won't support credit cards. 90% of places that support credit card will > only support Visa and Mastercard. > > In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have paywave, > so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as Google/Apple Pay - only > magstrip/chip cards > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan > wrote: > >> On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday > >>> I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As long >>> as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. >>> >> >> Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New >> Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. >> It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards >> in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. >> >> The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept >> Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a >> store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit >> cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way >> to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. >> >> (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and >> still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >>> Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. >>> >>> Cheers >>> Uday >>> >>> On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond >> >>>> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not >>>> apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. >>>> >>>> Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks >>>> >>>> Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. >>>> >>>> NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) >>>> >>>> Commonwealth Bank = ASB >>>> >>>> On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: >>>> >>>> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is >>>> not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, >>>> which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >>>> >>>> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD >>>> cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? >>>> >>>> Thanks? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>> >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Steven Ellis APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deputy at lca2019.org Mon Jan 14 09:48:48 2019 From: deputy at lca2019.org (Lisa Sands) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:48:48 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: Also if you are coming internationally to the airport from Australia most flight don't get in until around midnight and the last bus from the airport that goes past the University leaves Monday to Friday at 11:07 pm Saturday at 11:37 pm and Sunday at 10:37 pm. So you will need to look at other ways to get to the university if you are arriving after these times. And yes, when we say dairy we mean corner store! On 2019-01-14 11:29, Steven Ellis wrote: > In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google payment. > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb wrote: > > As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on where you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner store/dairy) that won't support credit cards. 90% of places that support credit card will only support Visa and Mastercard. > > In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As long as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. > > Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. > > The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. > > (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) > > Andrew > > Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. > > Cheers > Uday > > On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond > My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. > > Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks > > Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. > > NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) > > Commonwealth Bank = ASB > > On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: > > Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... > > Hello, > > Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. > > Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? > > Thanks? > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] -- Steven Ellis APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ [2] sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 [3] TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. 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On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:48, Lisa Sands wrote: > Also if you are coming internationally to the airport from Australia most > flight don't get in until around midnight and the last bus from the airport > that goes past the University leaves Monday to Friday at 11:07 pm Saturday > at 11:37 pm and Sunday at 10:37 pm. > > So you will need to look at other ways to get to the university if you are > arriving after these times. > > And yes, when we say dairy we mean corner store! > > > > On 2019-01-14 11:29, Steven Ellis wrote: > > In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google > payment. > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb wrote: > >> As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on where >> you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner store/dairy) that >> won't support credit cards. 90% of places that support credit card will >> only support Visa and Mastercard. >> >> In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have >> paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as Google/Apple Pay - >> only magstrip/chip cards >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan >> wrote: >> >>> On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday >> >>>> I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As >>>> long as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. >>>> >>> >>> Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New >>> Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. >>> It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards >>> in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. >>> >>> The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept >>> Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a >>> store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit >>> cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way >>> to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. >>> >>> (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and >>> still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Uday >>>> >>>> On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not >>>>> apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. >>>>> >>>>> Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks >>>>> >>>>> Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. >>>>> >>>>> NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) >>>>> >>>>> Commonwealth Bank = ASB >>>>> >>>>> On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is >>>>> not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, >>>>> which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >>>>> >>>>> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD >>>>> cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chat mailing list >>>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > > Steven Ellis > > APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE > > TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC > > Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ > > sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 > TRIED. TESTED. 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Credit cards can be optional >> depending on where you go, but it's normally a smaller store >> (like a corner store/dairy) that won't support credit cards.? >> 90% of places that support credit card will only support Visa >> and Mastercard. >> In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not >> have paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as >> Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan >> > wrote: >> >> On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday >> > wrote: >> >> I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with >> Google pay. As long as EFT POS are available, I think >> I should do fine. >> >> Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having >> "EFTPOS", in New Zealand, can mean strictly the local New >> Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. It does not imply >> acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards >> in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in >> Australia. >> The vast majority of places that tourists will care about >> accept Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still >> *occasionally* run into a store that has an EFTPOS >> terminal at the register but doesn't take credit cards, >> so be aware of that before you try to buy something and >> have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. >> (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two >> months ago and still ran into one shop that didn't take >> credit card...) >> -- Alec Clews Personal Melbourne, Australia. Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C blog:http://alecthegeek.github.io/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deputy at lca2019.org Mon Jan 14 10:07:56 2019 From: deputy at lca2019.org (Lisa Sands) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:07:56 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: So it is! On 14 January 2019 12:01:28 PM NZDT, Alec Clews wrote: >I think you mean "milk bar" > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_bar > > > >On 14/1/19 09:55, Eion Robb wrote: >> Whoops, my en-AU isn't so great. >> In future, I'll make sure to spell it as "fush 'n' chups" to make >sure >> we don't send our West Island friends to the Fission Sheeps shop >instead. >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:48, Lisa Sands > > wrote: >> >> Also if you are coming internationally to the airport from >> Australia most flight don't get in until around midnight and the >> last bus from the airport that goes past the University leaves >> Monday to Friday at 11:07 pm Saturday at 11:37 pm and Sunday at >> 10:37 pm. >> >> So you will need to look at other ways to get to the university >if >> you are arriving after these times. >> >> And yes, when we say dairy we mean corner store! >> >> On 2019-01-14 11:29, Steven Ellis wrote: >> >>> In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take >>> Apple/Google payment. >>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb >> > wrote: >>> >>> As a Kiwi, can confirm.? Credit cards can be optional >>> depending on where you go, but it's normally a smaller store >>> (like a corner store/dairy) that won't support credit >cards.? >>> 90% of places that support credit card will only support >Visa >>> and Mastercard. >>> In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not >>> have paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such >as >>> Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards >>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan >>> > >wrote: >>> >>> On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with >>> Google pay. As long as EFT POS are available, I >think >>> I should do fine. >>> >>> Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having >>> "EFTPOS", in New Zealand, can mean strictly the local >New >>> Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. It does not imply >>> acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards >>> in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in >>> Australia. >>> The vast majority of places that tourists will care >about >>> accept Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still >>> *occasionally* run into a store that has an EFTPOS >>> terminal at the register but doesn't take credit cards, >>> so be aware of that before you try to buy something and >>> have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't >hurt. >>> (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC >two >>> months ago and still ran into one shop that didn't take >>> credit card...) >>> > >-- >Alec Clews >Personal Melbourne, Australia. >Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org.au PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C >blog:http://alecthegeek.github.io/ -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at the-davies.net Mon Jan 14 10:47:07 2019 From: michael at the-davies.net (Michael Davies) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:17:07 +1030 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> So for someone arriving ?at about midnight? on Friday, Saturday or Sunday, what are the options to get to the University residential colleges? Thanks in advance, Michael... > On 14 Jan 2019, at 9:18 am, Lisa Sands wrote: > > Also if you are coming internationally to the airport from Australia most flight don't get in until around midnight and the last bus from the airport that goes past the University leaves Monday to Friday at 11:07 pm Saturday at 11:37 pm and Sunday at 10:37 pm. > > So you will need to look at other ways to get to the university if you are arriving after these times. > > And yes, when we say dairy we mean corner store! > > > >> On 2019-01-14 11:29, Steven Ellis wrote: >> >> In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google payment. >> >>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb wrote: >>> As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on where you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner store/dairy) that won't support credit cards. 90% of places that support credit card will only support Visa and Mastercard. >>> >>> In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards >>> >>>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan wrote: >>>>> On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday >>>> I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As long as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. >>>> >>>> The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. >>>> >>>> (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) >>>> >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Uday >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond >>>>> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks >>>>>> >>>>>> Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. >>>>>> >>>>>> NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) >>>>>> >>>>>> Commonwealth Bank = ASB >>>>>> >>>>>> On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Chat mailing list >>>>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>>> -- >>>>> Chat mailing list >>>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> >> -- >> Steven Ellis >> APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE >> TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC >> Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ >> sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 >> TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. >> >> > > > -- > Lisa Sands > > Deputy chair, LCA 2019 > Twitter: @linuxconfau > Web: linux.conf.au/ > > <65293ed8.png> > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org Mon Jan 14 10:49:51 2019 From: speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org (speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 12:49:51 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> Message-ID: Likely the "Super Shuttle", a taxi or Uber/Zoomy. See the Wiki (https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Public_transport_and_travel_to_and_from_Christchurch_airport) for further information. Cheers, Eila On 2019-01-14 12:47, Michael Davies wrote: > So for someone arriving ?at about midnight? on Friday, Saturday or > Sunday, what are the options to get to the University residential > colleges? > > Thanks in advance, > > Michael... > > On 14 Jan 2019, at 9:18 am, Lisa Sands wrote: > >> Also if you are coming internationally to the airport from Australia >> most flight don't get in until around midnight and the last bus from >> the airport that goes past the University leaves Monday to Friday at >> 11:07 pm Saturday at 11:37 pm and Sunday at 10:37 pm. >> >> So you will need to look at other ways to get to the university if >> you are arriving after these times. >> >> And yes, when we say dairy we mean corner store! >> >> On 2019-01-14 11:29, Steven Ellis wrote: >> In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take >> Apple/Google payment. >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb wrote: >> >> As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on >> where you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner >> store/dairy) that won't support credit cards. 90% of places that >> support credit card will only support Visa and Mastercard. >> >> In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have >> paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as >> Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan >> wrote: >> >> On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday > I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As >> long as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. >> >> Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in >> New Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS >> interbank network. It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and >> MasterCard credit cards in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as >> "EFTPOS" does in Australia. >> >> The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept >> Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run >> into a store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't >> take credit cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy >> something and have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash >> doesn't hurt. >> >> (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago >> and still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) >> >> Andrew >> >> Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. >> >> Cheers >> Uday >> >> On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond > wrote: >> >> My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not >> apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. >> >> Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks >> >> Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. >> >> NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) >> >> Commonwealth Bank = ASB >> >> On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: >> >> Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... >> >> Hello, >> >> Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it >> is not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the >> airport, which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. >> >> Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD >> cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch >> airport? >> >> Thanks? >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] > > -- > > Steven Ellis > > APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE > > TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC > > Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ [2] > > sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 [3] TRIED. TESTED. > TRUSTED. [4] > > -- > Lisa Sands > > Deputy chair, LCA 2019 > Twitter: @linuxconfau [5] > Web: linux.conf.au/ [6] > > <65293ed8.png> > >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat [1] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > [2] https://www.redhat.com/ > [3] https://www.redhat.com/en > [4] https://redhat.com/trusted > [5] https://twitter.com/linuxconfau > [6] https://linux.conf.au/ From hugh at blemings.org Mon Jan 14 10:50:40 2019 From: hugh at blemings.org (Hugh Blemings) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 10:50:40 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] temperature in the conference In-Reply-To: References: <2737345.1c9c6uBInK@liv> <6df42c0a-d1bc-971a-2875-be3c74be3f68@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> Message-ID: <64fa94fb-1fd1-9c73-2e29-42f007157f3c@blemings.org> Hiya, On 14/1/19 08:40, Cherie Ellis wrote: > here's the 10 day forecast as of today: > https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city#!/ten-day Looking at this data I must say the forecast for the week of the conference does look most pleasant indeed. My thanks to the organisers for arranging blue skies and mild climes for LCA - well done all! Cheers, Hugh ;) From Nick.Edwards at Hamiltonjet.nz Mon Jan 14 10:50:54 2019 From: Nick.Edwards at Hamiltonjet.nz (Nick Edwards) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 23:50:54 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> Message-ID: Either a taxi (probably NZD 60-70) or an Uber/Ola/Zoomy ($30-40) . Zoomy are an NZ based company who claim to pay their drivers better than others (I don?t know how true that is). From: Chat [mailto:chat-bounces at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au] On Behalf Of Michael Davies Sent: Monday, 14 January 2019 12:47 PM To: Lisa Sands Cc: chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au Subject: Re: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport So for someone arriving ?at about midnight? on Friday, Saturday or Sunday, what are the options to get to the University residential colleges? Thanks in advance, Michael... On 14 Jan 2019, at 9:18 am, Lisa Sands > wrote: Also if you are coming internationally to the airport from Australia most flight don't get in until around midnight and the last bus from the airport that goes past the University leaves Monday to Friday at 11:07 pm Saturday at 11:37 pm and Sunday at 10:37 pm. So you will need to look at other ways to get to the university if you are arriving after these times. And yes, when we say dairy we mean corner store! On 2019-01-14 11:29, Steven Ellis wrote: In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google payment. On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:19, Eion Robb > wrote: As a Kiwi, can confirm. Credit cards can be optional depending on where you go, but it's normally a smaller store (like a corner store/dairy) that won't support credit cards. 90% of places that support credit card will only support Visa and Mastercard. In addition to that, a shop can accept credit cards, but not have paywave, so wont work with NFC payment solutions such as Google/Apple Pay - only magstrip/chip cards On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:11, Andrew Donnellan > wrote: On Mon., 14 Jan. 2019, 02:50 Uday wrote: I am a village idiot and survived Tassie trecks with Google pay. As long as EFT POS are available, I think I should do fine. Note for Aussies who haven't been to NZ before: having "EFTPOS", in New Zealand, can mean strictly the local New Zealand EFTPOS interbank network. It does not imply acceptance of at least Visa and MasterCard credit cards in addition to an EFTPOS bank card as "EFTPOS" does in Australia. The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. (Kiwis feel free to correct me here, but I was in CHC two months ago and still ran into one shop that didn't take credit card...) Andrew Looking forward for LCA and getting to meet awesome crowd. Cheers Uday On Sun., 13 Jan. 2019, 4:52 pm Ross Drummond wrote: My NZ bank card works in AU so I cant see why the reverse does not apply to the NZ ATM's atirport. Here is a quick equivalence guide for AU --> NZ banks Westpac and ANZ are the same on both sides of the ditch. NAB = Bank of New Zealand(BNZ) Commonwealth Bank = ASB On 13.01.2019 02:24, Brian May wrote: Lets see if this works from my Debian email address... Hello, Thinking of getting a bus from the airport. To me it looks like it is not possible to purchase the Metrocard before arriving at the airport, which means I will need to pay the driver in NZD. Which in turn means I should have NZD cash. However I only have AUD cash. What is the best place to get NZD? Maybe ATM at Christchurch airport? Thanks? -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Steven Ellis APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. -- Lisa Sands Deputy chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ <65293ed8.png> -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 14 11:06:39 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:06:39 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] temperature in the conference In-Reply-To: <64fa94fb-1fd1-9c73-2e29-42f007157f3c@blemings.org> References: <2737345.1c9c6uBInK@liv> <6df42c0a-d1bc-971a-2875-be3c74be3f68@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> <64fa94fb-1fd1-9c73-2e29-42f007157f3c@blemings.org> Message-ID: On 2019-01-14 12:50, Hugh Blemings wrote: > Looking at this data I must say the forecast for the week of the > conference does look most pleasant indeed. I'd suggest not getting *too* attached to the forecast a week in advance.... New Zealand forecasts tend to have a half life of a day or two at most. It might well be blue skies and mild climes next week, or it might be reasonably warm, or it might be rather chilly, or it might be all of those things in one week -- or one day. One of the challenges of being relatively small islands, getting most of our weather over the sea, is both that it can change more rapidly than on large continents, and also there's less data collected from surrounding areas (oceans!) making prediction even more difficult. In general I'll *mostly* trust a forecast in New Zealand for the actual day, and assume "we'll have some weather like that some of the time soonish" for a forecast for the next few days. But as it probably shows my faith in weather forecasts for New Zealand a week in advance is... lower. I'd suggest packing clothes to suit a variety of weather in the 10C-30C (night/day) range, and keeping options close at hand :-) Ewen From deputy at lca2019.org Mon Jan 14 11:10:38 2019 From: deputy at lca2019.org (Lisa Sands) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 13:10:38 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] temperature in the conference In-Reply-To: References: <2737345.1c9c6uBInK@liv> <6df42c0a-d1bc-971a-2875-be3c74be3f68@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> <64fa94fb-1fd1-9c73-2e29-42f007157f3c@blemings.org> Message-ID: <1F6FABC4-67F7-4EA3-AA43-FACAEBCAC999@lca2019.org> In other words Dress in layers! On 14 January 2019 1:06:39 PM NZDT, Ewen McNeill wrote: >On 2019-01-14 12:50, Hugh Blemings wrote: >> Looking at this data I must say the forecast for the week of the >> conference does look most pleasant indeed. > >I'd suggest not getting *too* attached to the forecast a week in >advance.... New Zealand forecasts tend to have a half life of a day or >two at most. It might well be blue skies and mild climes next week, or > >it might be reasonably warm, or it might be rather chilly, or it might >be all of those things in one week -- or one day. > >One of the challenges of being relatively small islands, getting most >of >our weather over the sea, is both that it can change more rapidly than >on large continents, and also there's less data collected from >surrounding areas (oceans!) making prediction even more difficult. > >In general I'll *mostly* trust a forecast in New Zealand for the actual > >day, and assume "we'll have some weather like that some of the time >soonish" for a forecast for the next few days. But as it probably >shows >my faith in weather forecasts for New Zealand a week in advance is... >lower. > >I'd suggest packing clothes to suit a variety of weather in the 10C-30C > >(night/day) range, and keeping options close at hand :-) > >Ewen >-- >Chat mailing list >Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Will a Thursday evening timeslot for the BoF give us enough time before those of us heading to the dinner have to leave? Andrew > > Cheers, > Hugh > > > > > [0] For those unfamiliar with OpenPOWER - it's one of if not the most > open high performance platforms out there at present and a direct > descendant of PowerPC. On designs like the Blackbird you get an open > hardware design and entirely open software stack BIOS to OS to Apps. > Full disclosure - I work for the OpenPOWER Foundation :) > https://openpowerfoundation.org > > [1] https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/OpenPOWER_BoF > > [2] https://secure.raptorcs.com/content/BK1B01/intro.html > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 06:46, John Carter wrote: > I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of temperature.... > > At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C. > > Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as "#%@#! > freezing, one notch above winter". > > So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on the day. > > Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold fronts > sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a Southerly (like right > now)... it will be substantially cold(er). > > Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) > > If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... the > peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a wind chill of > -6 at the moment. > > But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes wrote: > >> >> On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: >> >> How much going outside will be involved at this one and how effective will air- >> conditioners be? Will we need to wear jackets inside or will shorts and t- >> shirt (the most suitable clothing for outside according to the weather >> forecast last time I checked) be ok for the entire day? >> >> The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the sun, >> assuming it shows itself. >> >> Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: >> >> https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city >> >> And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T-shirt >> with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through. >> >> Cheers, >> -- >> Steven Sykes >> >> Chair, LCA 2019 >> Twitter: @linuxconfau >> Web: linux.conf.au/ >> >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > > -- > John Carter > Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 > Tait Electronics > PO Box 1645 Christchurch > New Zealand > > > ------------------------------ > This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the > basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer > ------------------------------ > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2019Logo-mini.png Type: image/png Size: 9844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From marc at merlins.org Mon Jan 14 12:56:29 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 17:56:29 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <6paaqv-ujal1v99oifgmshhyf2700y8-mazuqn-idl5u6-mtw01oamsdlj-n6lw7wponahoom4bby-142bh5-cvdm8u-2aw9m4-whtbpv-bnczkg-nutvkap9pg5dwrro097xjvan-vx51tn-31wvw52tmgvv.1547093612063@email.android.com> Message-ID: <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> Thanks all for the answers So, let me summarize. The timing looks like this: 8:15 am CHRISTCHURCH 8:33 am 8:34 am ROLLESTON 8:55 am 8:56 am DARFIELD 9:19 am 9:20 am SPRINGFIELD 10:51 am 10:52 am ARTHUR'S PASS 11:26 am 11:26 am OTIRA 12:05 pm 12:06 pm MOANA 1:05 pm 2:05 pm GREYMOUTH 3:02 pm 3:03 pm MOANA 3:50 pm 3:51 pm OTIRA 4:27 pm 4:28 pm ARTHUR'S PASS 5:38 pm 5:39 pm SPRINGFIELD 5:58 pm 5:59 pm DARFIELD 6:15 pm 6:16 pm ROLLESTON 6:31 pm CHRISTCHURCH Several votes for Arthur's Pass. I think most people were saying that it'w worth doing as a day trip, and basically get out at Arthur's Pass, at 10:52, do stuff around there until 16:27 when the train comes back (apparently make sure it's booked or it won't stop), giving me 5h30 there, which is a good amount. Some of you said missing Arthur's Pass to Greymouth (2h20 or so) is unfortunate, but not essential. Is that correct? On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 02:50:45AM +0000, brett at davidson.gen.nz wrote: > Depends on what you like to do. Arthurs pass has a great set of walks > you could do. Other than that, not sure if there is anything worth > stopping for. Kind of a hard question, but are those walks complementary with those I'll already have done, namely: - milford track - routeburn - kepler or it'll be a bit more redundant and I should just let my wife enjoy some bubbly drink in the train all the way to greymouth and back? On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 09:06:30AM +1300, John Carter wrote: > It you're more a relax with a beer and admire the scenery from a train > sort.. apparently the Tranzalpine is one of the best (I'm told by those > into that sort of thing)... but I suspect what you can do at Arthur's will > then be driven by the train timetable. I just finished hiking the routeburn and going to the kepler track as I write this. I'm not afraid of hiking, but trying to see what makes the most sense. You do cover a lot more ground with the train. > Last time I went to Greymouth I was singularly unimpressed by it. To me it > is around the least interesting part of the westcoast. On the plus side, the train only stops 1h there, so I'm not too worried if it's not that great :) > The wetcoast is great (but wet).... Greymouth.... not so much (but still > fairly wet). .. but I should imagine the trip to and from Greymouth would > be nice. I stopped at Atika last time, it was fun (sadly only 30mn) http://marc.merlins.org/perso/nz2015/post_2015-02-01_New-Zealand-Day-23_-10_5H-bus-ride-from-Nelson-to-Fox-Glacier.html On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 08:00:53PM +1300, Ewen McNeill wrote: > and both of them (Otira, Moana) are request stops, as is Arthur's Pass. Ie, > you'd have to specifically book to go to/from there, otherwise the train > won't stop. > > I believe both are *tiny* settlements (Otira -- population 45: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otira, Moana -- population about 250: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana,_New_Zealand). I'm not worried about skipping those towns, I don't have time to get off the train and see them anyway, more whether I miss out by not doing Arthur's pass to Greymouth and back, or not. > For all three (Arthur's Pass, Otira, Moana) I suspect you'd want a specific > reason to stop, probably involving hiking or similar. Of the three my guess > would be Arthur's Pass (another *tiny* village, but a bit tourist focused: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur%27s_Pass), or maybe Moana for Lake > Brunner, if you found a specific walk you wanted to do. Seems like you > could maybe get 4 hours or so between trains if you got off in Arthur's > Pass. 5h30 even. > PS: Of note, Christchurch is *still* rebuilding after the earthquakes some > years ago caused much of the central city to be pulled down. There's not as > much "tourist focused" things to do in central Christchurch as their used to > be. But there's plenty in "day trip" / "afternoon trip" driving distance of > central Christchurch / the University of Canterbury area (which is outside > central Christchurch), so renting a car to explore might be a good use of > extra days. Noted, thanks. On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:09:31PM +1300, rossd at snap.net.nz wrote: > Lake Moana is a good spot. This is near Greymouth with walking > tracks. > http://golakebrunner.co.nz/walks/ > > If the Grey River is in > flood and your visit co-insides with high tide continue to Greymouth > walk along the sea wall to the mouth and be amazed at the fishing boats > crossing the bar. > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huhEWxW4XFE Ok, so one vote for going farther, thanks :) On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 05:13:32PM +1300, hamster at snap.net.nz wrote: > Have a look at stopping at Arthur's Pass. > It is a small township in the middle of the national park (of the same name). > Walk to the Punchbowl falls, see the visitor's center, have a coffee and cake in the cafe. Warning - the hills are steep! > The only downside is you don't get to see the West Coast rainforest. Yep, that's what I'm struggling right right now. Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From mike at ethernal.org Mon Jan 14 13:28:36 2019 From: mike at ethernal.org (Mike Beattie) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:28:36 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> References: <6paaqv-ujal1v99oifgmshhyf2700y8-mazuqn-idl5u6-mtw01oamsdlj-n6lw7wponahoom4bby-142bh5-cvdm8u-2aw9m4-whtbpv-bnczkg-nutvkap9pg5dwrro097xjvan-vx51tn-31wvw52tmgvv.1547093612063@email.android.com> <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20190114022836.ravp7cr4oqm32nq2@prometheus.ethernal.org> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 05:56:29PM -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Thanks all for the answers > ... > > Several votes for Arthur's Pass. I think most people were saying that > it'w worth doing as a day trip, and basically get out at Arthur's Pass, > at 10:52, do stuff around there until 16:27 when the train comes back > (apparently make sure it's booked or it won't stop), giving me 5h30 > there, which is a good amount. > > Some of you said missing Arthur's Pass to Greymouth (2h20 or so) is > unfortunate, but not essential. Is that correct? Are you going for the train trip, or to get to Arthurs Pass? Honestly, I personally couldn't think of anything worse than being stuck at Arthurs Pass for 5.5 hours - take the train through to Greymouth and enjoy the scenery, I hear some of the best bits are on the western side of Arthurs Pass. (I don't know if it goes past the Otira Viaduct, but that's impressive to see, if you like engineering) Basically, the train ride is a destination unto itself. the Carriages have very large viewing windows for that very reason. That said, if you specifically want to go to Arthurs Pass for walks or something, do that - but from memory last time I went through by road, there's not much else to do other than walks/hikes, and have an expensive coffee. Mike. -- Mike Beattie From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 14 13:58:31 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:58:31 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> References: <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> Message-ID: <92cd47d9-153e-cbdb-89f3-6e8e748da91e@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 2019-01-14 14:56, Marc MERLIN wrote: > Kind of a hard question, but are those walks complementary with those > I'll already have done, namely: > - milford track > - routeburn > - kepler > or it'll be a bit more redundant and I should just let my wife enjoy > some bubbly drink in the train all the way to greymouth and back? The Milford Track, and the Routeburn are some of the top hiking tracks in New Zealand (and the Kepler is well up there too). The Arthur's Pass area doesn't really come up in "top hiking tracks", except perhaps for snow/ice mountaineering, which isn't really something that's practical in a 4-5 hour stopover. If you enjoy walking with *views* of snow/ice covered mountain ranges, it could be worth the stop, if you figure out how to get to the start of the tracks (see below). Personally I'd be leaning towards staying on the train and relaxing. The West Coast geography is significantly different from the East Coast geography, so there'll be different things to see. And it'll be a relaxing chill out day with panoramic windows. FWIW, Arthur's Pass walks: https://www.christchurchnz.com/walk-canterbury/arthurs-pass-and-selwyn/arthurs-pass-walks/ has a few short walks, and a few longer walks, but at a quick glance several of them are assuming you're leaving from Arthur's Pass itself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur%27s_Pass_(mountain_pass) rather than the township where the train stops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur%27s_Pass which is about 5km away, and significantly lower. Or from somewhere else "a few km" from the pass / township. Which means several of those walking tracks are probably only easily accessible by car. (Some of them seem to start within walking distance of the township, but they appear to be the shortest/least scenic ones.) I'd suggest figuring out a specific reason to stop. Rather than figuring that the second half of the train trip is "not essential". If you only go to Arthur's pass on the train, you'll only see the Southern Alps from one side. Ewen From carl.klitscher at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 15:28:14 2019 From: carl.klitscher at gmail.com (Carl Klitscher) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:28:14 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> References: <6paaqv-ujal1v99oifgmshhyf2700y8-mazuqn-idl5u6-mtw01oamsdlj-n6lw7wponahoom4bby-142bh5-cvdm8u-2aw9m4-whtbpv-bnczkg-nutvkap9pg5dwrro097xjvan-vx51tn-31wvw52tmgvv.1547093612063@email.android.com> <20190114015629.k5p3s5uywxhpwuau@merlins.org> Message-ID: Otira and Arthurs Pass are mandatory stops on the route to attach and detach the banking engines used to get through the Otira Tunnel... 8.5 km long running under the spine of the southern Alps... And they don't let you stand in the observation car going through it either! Used to have its own power station to run the electric engines but the switch to diesel required the installation of a door at one end that closes after the train goes through... The vacuum created then forces air past the train so you don't all die from diesel fumes :-) Last time I went through the local kea kept dive bombing the train staff as they attached the engines at Arthurs Pass... Common working hazard apparently! More at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otira_Tunnel for any train geeks... On Mon, 14 Jan 2019, 3:13 PM Marc MERLIN Thanks all for the answers > > So, let me summarize. > > The timing looks like this: > 8:15 am CHRISTCHURCH > 8:33 am 8:34 am ROLLESTON > 8:55 am 8:56 am DARFIELD > 9:19 am 9:20 am SPRINGFIELD > 10:51 am 10:52 am ARTHUR'S PASS > 11:26 am 11:26 am OTIRA > 12:05 pm 12:06 pm MOANA > 1:05 pm 2:05 pm GREYMOUTH > 3:02 pm 3:03 pm MOANA > 3:50 pm 3:51 pm OTIRA > 4:27 pm 4:28 pm ARTHUR'S PASS > 5:38 pm 5:39 pm SPRINGFIELD > 5:58 pm 5:59 pm DARFIELD > 6:15 pm 6:16 pm ROLLESTON > 6:31 pm CHRISTCHURCH > > Several votes for Arthur's Pass. I think most people were saying that > it'w worth doing as a day trip, and basically get out at Arthur's Pass, > at 10:52, do stuff around there until 16:27 when the train comes back > (apparently make sure it's booked or it won't stop), giving me 5h30 > there, which is a good amount. > > Some of you said missing Arthur's Pass to Greymouth (2h20 or so) is > unfortunate, but not essential. Is that correct? > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 02:50:45AM +0000, brett at davidson.gen.nz wrote: > > Depends on what you like to do. Arthurs pass has a great set of walks > > you could do. Other than that, not sure if there is anything worth > > stopping for. > > Kind of a hard question, but are those walks complementary with those > I'll already have done, namely: > - milford track > - routeburn > - kepler > or it'll be a bit more redundant and I should just let my wife enjoy > some bubbly drink in the train all the way to greymouth and back? > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 09:06:30AM +1300, John Carter wrote: > > It you're more a relax with a beer and admire the scenery from a train > > sort.. apparently the Tranzalpine is one of the best (I'm told by those > > into that sort of thing)... but I suspect what you can do at Arthur's > will > > then be driven by the train timetable. > > I just finished hiking the routeburn and going to the kepler track as I > write this. I'm not afraid of hiking, but trying to see what makes the > most sense. You do cover a lot more ground with the train. > > > Last time I went to Greymouth I was singularly unimpressed by it. To me > it > > is around the least interesting part of the westcoast. > > On the plus side, the train only stops 1h there, so I'm not too worried > if it's not that great :) > > > The wetcoast is great (but wet).... Greymouth.... not so much (but still > > fairly wet). .. but I should imagine the trip to and from Greymouth would > > be nice. > > I stopped at Atika last time, it was fun (sadly only 30mn) > > http://marc.merlins.org/perso/nz2015/post_2015-02-01_New-Zealand-Day-23_-10_5H-bus-ride-from-Nelson-to-Fox-Glacier.html > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 08:00:53PM +1300, Ewen McNeill wrote: > > and both of them (Otira, Moana) are request stops, as is Arthur's Pass. > Ie, > > you'd have to specifically book to go to/from there, otherwise the train > > won't stop. > > > > I believe both are *tiny* settlements (Otira -- population 45: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otira, Moana -- population about 250: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moana,_New_Zealand). > > I'm not worried about skipping those towns, I don't have time to get off > the train and see them anyway, more whether I miss out by not doing > Arthur's pass to Greymouth and back, or not. > > > For all three (Arthur's Pass, Otira, Moana) I suspect you'd want a > specific > > reason to stop, probably involving hiking or similar. Of the three my > guess > > would be Arthur's Pass (another *tiny* village, but a bit tourist > focused: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur%27s_Pass), or maybe Moana for Lake > > Brunner, if you found a specific walk you wanted to do. Seems like you > > could maybe get 4 hours or so between trains if you got off in Arthur's > > Pass. > > 5h30 even. > > > PS: Of note, Christchurch is *still* rebuilding after the earthquakes > some > > years ago caused much of the central city to be pulled down. There's not > as > > much "tourist focused" things to do in central Christchurch as their > used to > > be. But there's plenty in "day trip" / "afternoon trip" driving > distance of > > central Christchurch / the University of Canterbury area (which is > outside > > central Christchurch), so renting a car to explore might be a good use of > > extra days. > > Noted, thanks. > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:09:31PM +1300, rossd at snap.net.nz wrote: > > Lake Moana is a good spot. This is near Greymouth with walking > > tracks. > > http://golakebrunner.co.nz/walks/ > > > > If the Grey River is in > > flood and your visit co-insides with high tide continue to Greymouth > > walk along the sea wall to the mouth and be amazed at the fishing boats > > crossing the bar. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huhEWxW4XFE > > Ok, so one vote for going farther, thanks :) > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 05:13:32PM +1300, hamster at snap.net.nz wrote: > > Have a look at stopping at Arthur's Pass. > > It is a small township in the middle of the national park (of the same > name). > > Walk to the Punchbowl falls, see the visitor's center, have a coffee and > cake in the cafe. 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This is making it hard for me to work out when >> to run my BoF, because I run that in an evening I don't know what I might >> be clashing with. >> >> Is this info somewhere on the site that I've failed to notice? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Michael >> > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This is making it hard for > me to work out when to run my BoF, because I run that in an > evening I don't know what I might be clashing with. > > Is this info somewhere on the site that I've failed to notice? > > Thanks! > > Michael > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au ? ? ? ? andrew at donnellan.id.au > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From andrew at donnellan.id.au Mon Jan 14 17:32:42 2019 From: andrew at donnellan.id.au (Andrew Donnellan) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:32:42 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Schedule for social events? In-Reply-To: References: <70EB9D30-F592-4442-ABC6-0229B063664D@bell.id.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:22, Steve Walsh wrote: > According to the page David linked to, 1730hrs. > Right, I initially read that as a generic "1730 onwards is the evening events slot" rather than "1730 is the start time of all evening events", possibly in the hope that such an interpretation leaves room to put a BoF meeting in between the talks and the dinners... Andrew > > On 14/1/19 5:17 pm, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:07, David Bell wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> The social events are on the programme overview here: >> https://linux.conf.au/programme/ >> > > Specifically, does anyone know what times the various events start in the > evening, and what time people need to leave site to make it to those events? > > > Andrew > > > >> >> >> David >> >> On 14 January 2019 5:04:43 pm AEDT, Michael Still >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> perhaps this is somewhere that I haven't noticed, but I can't find a >>> schedule for social events. This is making it hard for me to work out when >>> to run my BoF, because I run that in an evening I don't know what I might >>> be clashing with. >>> >>> Is this info somewhere on the site that I've failed to notice? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Michael >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hugh at blemings.org Mon Jan 14 17:34:55 2019 From: hugh at blemings.org (Hugh Blemings) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:34:55 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Schedule for social events? In-Reply-To: References: <70EB9D30-F592-4442-ABC6-0229B063664D@bell.id.au> Message-ID: <01d4e37b-534c-4de1-aa3e-72e330f84731@blemings.org> On 14/1/19 17:32, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:22, Steve Walsh > wrote: > > According to the page David linked to, 1730hrs. > > > Right, I initially read that as a generic "1730 onwards is the evening > events slot" rather than "1730 is the start time of all evening events", > possibly in the hope that such an interpretation leaves room to put a > BoF meeting in between the talks and the dinners... Ya, that was my read also - it's a bit open to interpretation, perhaps the good folk doing the organising could provide some further detail on this :) Cheers, Hugh > > > Andrew > > > On 14/1/19 5:17 pm, Andrew Donnellan wrote: >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:07, David Bell > > wrote: >> >> Hi Michael, >> >> The social events are on the programme overview here: >> https://linux.conf.au/programme/ >> >> >> Specifically, does anyone know what times the various events start >> in the evening, and what time people need to leave site to make it >> to those events? >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> David >> >> On 14 January 2019 5:04:43 pm AEDT, Michael Still >> > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> perhaps this is somewhere that I haven't noticed, but I >> can't find a schedule for social events. This is making it >> hard for me to work out when to run my BoF, because I run >> that in an evening I don't know what I might be clashing with. >> >> Is this info somewhere on the site that I've failed to notice? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Michael >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >> brevity. >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Donnellan >> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >> >> > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > > From deputy at lca2019.org Mon Jan 14 17:37:26 2019 From: deputy at lca2019.org (Lisa Sands) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:37:26 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Schedule for social events? In-Reply-To: <01d4e37b-534c-4de1-aa3e-72e330f84731@blemings.org> References: <70EB9D30-F592-4442-ABC6-0229B063664D@bell.id.au> <01d4e37b-534c-4de1-aa3e-72e330f84731@blemings.org> Message-ID: <27DE214A-A06B-4780-B034-A98D2495F664@lca2019.org> Most events will start or transport will be leaving from uni at 6pm On 14 January 2019 7:34:55 PM NZDT, Hugh Blemings wrote: >On 14/1/19 17:32, Andrew Donnellan wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:22, Steve Walsh > > wrote: >> >> According to the page David linked to, 1730hrs. >> >> >> Right, I initially read that as a generic "1730 onwards is the >evening >> events slot" rather than "1730 is the start time of all evening >events", >> possibly in the hope that such an interpretation leaves room to put a > >> BoF meeting in between the talks and the dinners... > >Ya, that was my read also - it's a bit open to interpretation, perhaps >the good folk doing the organising could provide some further detail on > >this :) > >Cheers, >Hugh > > >> >> >> Andrew >> >> >> On 14/1/19 5:17 pm, Andrew Donnellan wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:07, David Bell >> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> The social events are on the programme overview here: >>> https://linux.conf.au/programme/ >>> >>> >>> Specifically, does anyone know what times the various events >start >>> in the evening, and what time people need to leave site to make >it >>> to those events? >>> >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >>> David >>> >>> On 14 January 2019 5:04:43 pm AEDT, Michael Still >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> perhaps this is somewhere that I haven't noticed, but I >>> can't find a schedule for social events. This is making >it >>> hard for me to work out when to run my BoF, because I >run >>> that in an evening I don't know what I might be clashing >with. >>> >>> Is this info somewhere on the site that I've failed to >notice? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my >>> brevity. >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Donnellan >>> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Donnellan >> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >> >> > >-- >Chat mailing list >Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz Mon Jan 14 17:39:55 2019 From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:39:55 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: <87o98jg2tg.fsf@silverfish.pri> Andrew Donnellan writes: > The vast majority of places that tourists will care about accept > Visa/MasterCard these days, but you will still *occasionally* run into a > store that has an EFTPOS terminal at the register but doesn't take credit > cards, so be aware of that before you try to buy something and have no way > to pay. Having a little bit of cash doesn't hurt. Been there done that at the last LCA in NZ. My earlier research had suggested that EFTPOS in AU and EFTOS in NZ are the same network when nothing can be further from the truth - they are two seperate networks that happen to have the same name (I really find it hard to find out solid facts on these financial networks... Often banks will say there cards will work overseas but not actually say what networks are supported for example) We warned the employee beforehand that it may not work. No problem. It wasn't until after they dished up our icecreams that we found it didn't work. Employee said they couldn't take AUD either, and referred case to the manager. The manager was about to give us the icecreams "on the house" when he spoted we had AUD cash, which he said he could accept. 1:1 exchange rate, so we missed out a little bit, but glad we were able to pay (and also get the drinks we wanted). In hind sight, we probably should have insisted on paying first or placing a small test transaction just to check it really worked. -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 14 17:41:17 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:41:17 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Schedule for social events? In-Reply-To: References: <70EB9D30-F592-4442-ABC6-0229B063664D@bell.id.au> Message-ID: <9ab3f44b-f2d0-beea-6d33-10135d559995@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 2019-01-14 19:17, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > Specifically, does anyone know what times the various events start in > the evening, and what time people need to leave site to make it to those > events? In practice those evening events (Tue/Wed/Thu, depending on ticket type; Monday for AGM) generally start around 18:00 (6pm), or involve transport (eg, buses) that people need to be on around then. So there's often not much time from the close of the last "day" session (17:30) until (some) people need to be on their way to an event. The AGM (Monday) I suspect is relatively short (an hour or so?) so it might be possible to have something after that, at least if it were hosted at a dorm venue rather than the main University campus (I don't know when we'll be encouraged out of the main campus, but some years it's been fairly early). Tuesday is the (main conference programme only) Speaker's dinner, so will have the fewest people with conflicts of Tue/Wed/Thu. Wednesday (PDNS) may well have a "Unprofessional DNS" community organised along side it, but the schedule tends to be a bit more flexible for those. Thursday is the main conference dinner, which I suspect will have the most conference attendees of the Tue/Wed/Thu days; and it's also later in the week when people are less likely to want to add more "BoFs" into their day. The other common BoF approach if you are trying not to conflict with any other sessions is to go for a lunchtime option (either at a lunch venue, or somewhere for half of lunchtime), or a morning/afternoon tea. Hope that helps, Ewen From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz Mon Jan 14 17:41:34 2019 From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:41:34 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> Message-ID: <87lg3ng2qp.fsf@silverfish.pri> Steven Ellis writes: > In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google > payment. I thought Apple/Google pay was implemented using PayWave??? Highlights my previous point that finding this sort of information can be difficult. -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From bam at debian.org Mon Jan 14 17:43:14 2019 From: bam at debian.org (Brian May) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:43:14 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <87imyrg2nx.fsf@silverfish.pri> Andrew Donnellan writes: >> Is it possible to buy one at the airport with visa? If so you could buy a >> card from the shops at the airport with your au visa card. >> > > You can't buy a Christchurch Metrocard at the airport at all. Relatedly, > the cash fare for the airport bus is 4x the Metrocard fare for the same > bus... Apparently you can buy them from the university bookshop. Is anybody local able to confirm? -- Brian May From hugh at blemings.org Mon Jan 14 17:49:22 2019 From: hugh at blemings.org (Hugh Blemings) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:49:22 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Schedule for social events? In-Reply-To: <9ab3f44b-f2d0-beea-6d33-10135d559995@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> References: <70EB9D30-F592-4442-ABC6-0229B063664D@bell.id.au> <9ab3f44b-f2d0-beea-6d33-10135d559995@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> Message-ID: <1ab26287-47e2-25cf-c8ca-5d70f082f4b8@blemings.org> Hiya, Thanks Ewen and Lisa, I think that gives us just what we need :) Cheers, Hugh On 14/1/19 17:41, Ewen McNeill wrote: > On 2019-01-14 19:17, Andrew Donnellan wrote: >> Specifically, does anyone know what times the various events start in >> the evening, and what time people need to leave site to make it to >> those events? > > In practice those evening events (Tue/Wed/Thu, depending on ticket type; > Monday for AGM) generally start around 18:00 (6pm), or involve transport > (eg, buses) that people need to be on around then.? So there's often not > much time from the close of the last "day" session (17:30) until (some) > people need to be on their way to an event. > > The AGM (Monday) I suspect is relatively short (an hour or so?) so it > might be possible to have something after that, at least if it were > hosted at a dorm venue rather than the main University campus (I don't > know when we'll be encouraged out of the main campus, but some years > it's been fairly early). > > Tuesday is the (main conference programme only) Speaker's dinner, so > will have the fewest people with conflicts of Tue/Wed/Thu.? Wednesday > (PDNS) may well have a "Unprofessional DNS" community organised along > side it, but the schedule tends to be a bit more flexible for those. > Thursday is the main conference dinner, which I suspect will have the > most conference attendees of the Tue/Wed/Thu days; and it's also later > in the week when people are less likely to want to add more "BoFs" into > their day. > > The other common BoF approach if you are trying not to conflict with any > other sessions is to go for a lunchtime option (either at a lunch venue, > or somewhere for half of lunchtime), or a morning/afternoon tea. > > Hope that helps, > > Ewen From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz Mon Jan 14 17:49:33 2019 From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:49:33 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Fwd: [Mail Delivery System] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender In-Reply-To: <12794508.VUdpRnnIYJ@xev> References: <12794508.VUdpRnnIYJ@xev> Message-ID: <87d0ozg2de.fsf@silverfish.pri> Russell Coker writes: > Who is running the LCA mailing list? Can someone please fix this? If you get this email, it is proof the problem has been fixed :-) Thanks -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 14 17:54:32 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 19:54:32 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <87lg3ng2qp.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> <87lg3ng2qp.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: On 2019-01-14 19:41, Brian May wrote: > Steven Ellis writes: >> In addition a lot of places who do take PayWave don't take Apple/Google >> payment. > > I thought Apple/Google pay was implemented using PayWave??? I believe that's the "transport protocol". But I think it's a different acquirer, "card number" range, etc, and thus I suspect some banks are selling it to merchants as an extra cost option. (I believe paywave is *also* being sold to at least some merchants as an extra cost option, as I've definitely come across paywave capable *terminals* in New Zealand that the merchant has labelled "no paywave".) Off the top of my head ANZ in New Zealand was fairly keen on Apple Pay starting 2018 (2017?), and I think Google Pay recently (late 2018?), but I'm not sure where the other NZ banks are in terms of roll out to merchants. (I believe all of them can offer their merchants Paywave, but maybe not all of them are signed up with Apple / Google, etc.) As for EFTPOS networks, my impression is that these are per-country / per "bank of merchant" networks, with telco-style interconnection deals. So exactly what works with what is a bit up in the air depending on the exact combinations. The (Visa owned?) Plus network: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_(interbank_network) is one of those interbank networks, as is the (Mastercard owned) Cirrus network: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cirrus_(interbank_network) A lot of ATMs are linked to both for maximum coverage. But my impression is a lot of merchant EFTPOS terminals are at most linked to one of them (quite possibly that too is a "extra cost" item to merchants...). Off the top of my head I don't think I've found anywhere in New Zealand that *won't* accept cash. Although for a bunch of business types they're quite surprised to be offered cash these days (I routinely pay for smaller value items with cash). By contrast in Sydney last year I did find at least one vendor that simply would not accept cash -- they were card only. > Highlights my previous point that finding this sort of information can > be difficult. Definitely. Perhaps people working in a bank have a better idea. But even then it seems to be "it depends" (on authoriser bank / acquirer bank / common bank networks / merchant subscription choices / ...). Ewen From mikal at stillhq.com Mon Jan 14 17:55:15 2019 From: mikal at stillhq.com (Michael Still) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 17:55:15 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Schedule for social events? In-Reply-To: <1ab26287-47e2-25cf-c8ca-5d70f082f4b8@blemings.org> References: <70EB9D30-F592-4442-ABC6-0229B063664D@bell.id.au> <9ab3f44b-f2d0-beea-6d33-10135d559995@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> <1ab26287-47e2-25cf-c8ca-5d70f082f4b8@blemings.org> Message-ID: Yes, it seems to me that evening BOFs are going to be a bit fraught. I will find a lunchtime instead. Thanks all, Michael On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 5:49 PM Hugh Blemings wrote: > Hiya, > > Thanks Ewen and Lisa, I think that gives us just what we need :) > > Cheers, > Hugh > > > On 14/1/19 17:41, Ewen McNeill wrote: > > On 2019-01-14 19:17, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > >> Specifically, does anyone know what times the various events start in > >> the evening, and what time people need to leave site to make it to > >> those events? > > > > In practice those evening events (Tue/Wed/Thu, depending on ticket type; > > Monday for AGM) generally start around 18:00 (6pm), or involve transport > > (eg, buses) that people need to be on around then. So there's often not > > much time from the close of the last "day" session (17:30) until (some) > > people need to be on their way to an event. > > > > The AGM (Monday) I suspect is relatively short (an hour or so?) so it > > might be possible to have something after that, at least if it were > > hosted at a dorm venue rather than the main University campus (I don't > > know when we'll be encouraged out of the main campus, but some years > > it's been fairly early). > > > > Tuesday is the (main conference programme only) Speaker's dinner, so > > will have the fewest people with conflicts of Tue/Wed/Thu. 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I'll update the Wiki accordingly Cheers, Hugh From cherieellisnz at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 21:07:01 2019 From: cherieellisnz at gmail.com (Cherie Ellis) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 23:07:01 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> Message-ID: good point - uniformity has it uses... On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 23:04, Miles Goodhew wrote: > I'd like to add that it's probably most useful to list arrival time for > arrivals and departure time for departures. Phrased this way, it sounds > self-evident, but we at least have two entries for VA99 on Sunday, one of > which lists the departure time from Melbourne and the other has the arrival > time. > The "In Christchurch" times are IMHO going to be more use for organising > transport, etc. > > M0les. > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:18, Cherie Ellis > wrote: > >> now would probably be a good time to add your arrival/departure info into >> the wiki, you may find that you're on the same flight as other delegates. >> https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Airport_arrivals_and_departures >> >> >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 18:57, Matthew Sherborne >> wrote: >> >>> Is anyone else arriving on Saturday 19th Jan at 11:30 pm and going to >>> the hall residences ? we can share a taxi >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cherie Ellis >> +64 21 293 9746 >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > > -- > Miles Goodhew, > Executive Computer Scientist > -- Cherie Ellis +64 21 293 9746 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But looks like "Country" is not a field, does this mean I need to register using the address of my accomodation instead? https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Public_transport_and_travel_to_and_from_Christchurch_airport -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From mgoodhew at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 21:04:24 2019 From: mgoodhew at gmail.com (Miles Goodhew) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:04:24 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <1b266d600aa7e0a6790b3ad30cc6e058@snap.net.nz> <29BDB09C-635C-4C1F-B5F7-E8F6D5F0DD6E@the-davies.net> Message-ID: I'd like to add that it's probably most useful to list arrival time for arrivals and departure time for departures. Phrased this way, it sounds self-evident, but we at least have two entries for VA99 on Sunday, one of which lists the departure time from Melbourne and the other has the arrival time. The "In Christchurch" times are IMHO going to be more use for organising transport, etc. M0les. On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 17:18, Cherie Ellis wrote: > now would probably be a good time to add your arrival/departure info into > the wiki, you may find that you're on the same flight as other delegates. > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Airport_arrivals_and_departures > > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 18:57, Matthew Sherborne > wrote: > >> Is anyone else arriving on Saturday 19th Jan at 11:30 pm and going to the >> hall residences ? we can share a taxi >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > > -- > Cherie Ellis > +64 21 293 9746 > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Miles Goodhew, Executive Computer Scientist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > 11 degrees sounds positively pleasant compared to the next week of > maximums at http://www.bom.gov.au/act/forecasts/canberra.shtml> Looking forward to it being as freezing as possible! > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 06:46, John Carter > wrote:>> I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of >> temperature....>> >> At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C. >> >> Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as >> "#%@#! freezing, one notch above winter".>> >> So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on the day.>> >> Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold >> fronts sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a Southerly >> (like right now)... it will be substantially cold(er).>> >> >> Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) >> >> If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... >> the peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a wind >> chill of -6 at the moment.>> >> But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes >> wrote:>>> >>> On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: >>>> How much going outside will be involved at this one and how >>>> effective will air- conditioners be? Will we need to wear jackets >>>> inside or will shorts and t- shirt (the most suitable clothing for >>>> outside according to the weather forecast last time I checked) be >>>> ok for the entire day?>>> The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the sun, >>> assuming it shows itself.>>> Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: >>> https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city>>> And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T- >>> shirt with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through.>>> Cheers, >>> -- >>> Steven Sykes >>> >>> Chair, LCA 2019 >>> Twitter: @linuxconfau[1] >>> Web: linux.conf.au/ >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> >> -- >> John Carter >> Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 >> Tait Electronics >> PO Box 1645 Christchurch >> New Zealand >> >> This Communication is Confidential. 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Especially if you're used > to parts of the world with a normal ozone layer, you might be unpleasantly > surprised to spend an hour or two outdoors on a cold or even overcast day > and end up burned. > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > 11 degrees sounds positively pleasant compared to the next week of > maximums at http://www.bom.gov.au/act/forecasts/canberra.shtml > Looking forward to it being as freezing as possible! > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 06:46, John Carter > wrote: > > I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of temperature.... > > At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C. > > Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as "#%@#! > freezing, one notch above winter". > > So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on the day. > > Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold fronts > sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a Southerly (like right > now)... it will be substantially cold(er). > > > Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) > > If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... the > peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a wind chill of > -6 at the moment. > > But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes wrote: > > > On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > > How much going outside will be involved at this one and how effective will air- > conditioners be? Will we need to wear jackets inside or will shorts and t- > shirt (the most suitable clothing for outside according to the weather > forecast last time I checked) be ok for the entire day? > > The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the sun, > assuming it shows itself. > > Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: > > https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city > > And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T-shirt > with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through. > > Cheers, > -- > Steven Sykes > > Chair, LCA 2019 > Twitter: @linuxconfau > Web: linux.conf.au/ > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > John Carter > Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 > Tait Electronics > PO Box 1645 Christchurch > New Zealand > > ------------------------------ > This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the > basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer > ------------------------------ > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Steven Ellis APAC PRINCIPAL PRODUCT MANAGER - STORAGE TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC Red Hat Asia Pacific - Auckland NZ sellis at redhat.com M: +64 21 321 673 TRIED. TESTED. TRUSTED. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Antarctica has. I think the "You get sunburnt in NZ" trope has emerged from a couple of things... * Outdoors here is sufficiently nice, people spend more time in it. * People from Northern Europe come to NZ and get singed... but somehow the rest of the world doesn't exist in our consciousness. * People get to a couple of 1000m above sea level in the Alps for the first time in their existence, and then get burnt. * After spending a cold wet winter indoors... pasty whites with zero tans emerge blinking into the sunlight and get scorched. * On some, very rare occasions, in the past, the antarctic ozone hole has wobbled sufficiently far off centre to affect NZ. ie. If you're from Africa or Australia... and don't go up to the Alps... the UV hazard will actually be less here than back home. On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:30 AM E. Dunham wrote: > Additionally, bring or expect to buy sunblock! Especially if you're used > to parts of the world with a normal ozone layer, you might be unpleasantly > surprised to spend an hour or two outdoors on a cold or even overcast day > and end up burned. > > > On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > 11 degrees sounds positively pleasant compared to the next week of > maximums at http://www.bom.gov.au/act/forecasts/canberra.shtml > Looking forward to it being as freezing as possible! > > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 06:46, John Carter > wrote: > > I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of temperature.... > > At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C. > > Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as "#%@#! > freezing, one notch above winter". > > So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on the day. > > Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold fronts > sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a Southerly (like right > now)... it will be substantially cold(er). > > > Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) > > If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... the > peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a wind chill of > -6 at the moment. > > But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes wrote: > > > On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: > > How much going outside will be involved at this one and how effective will air- > conditioners be? Will we need to wear jackets inside or will shorts and t- > shirt (the most suitable clothing for outside according to the weather > forecast last time I checked) be ok for the entire day? > > The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the sun, > assuming it shows itself. > > Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: > > https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city > > And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T-shirt > with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through. > > Cheers, > -- > Steven Sykes > > Chair, LCA 2019 > Twitter: @linuxconfau > Web: linux.conf.au/ > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > John Carter > Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 > Tait Electronics > PO Box 1645 Christchurch > New Zealand > > ------------------------------ > This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the > basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer > ------------------------------ > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics PO Box 1645 Christchurch New Zealand -- This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Perhaps my original point would have been better communicated without any mention of the ozone layer at all, but alas, it's set in the stone of the mailing list now. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, at 3:34 PM, John Carter wrote: > Careful, this is how we get climate change deniers.... > > ..scientific imprecision uttered so often that nobody is aware that it > is wrong...> > I'd point at NOAA but Trump has closed it down for now.. anyway this > will do...> > https://www.eldoradoweather.com/climate/world-maps/world-ozone.html > > See. NZ has a thicker ozone layer than most of the world. > > Less thick than Northern Europe, but substantially thicker than > Australia, Africa most of Latin America....> > But somehow it has entered the culture that NZ has an Ozone hole. > > No it hasn't. > > Antarctica has. > > I think the "You get sunburnt in NZ" trope has emerged from a couple > of things...> > * Outdoors here is sufficiently nice, people spend more time in it. > * People from Northern Europe come to NZ and get singed... but somehow > the rest of the world doesn't exist in our consciousness.> * People get to a couple of 1000m above sea level in the Alps for the > first time in their existence, and then get burnt.> * After spending a cold wet winter indoors... pasty whites with zero > tans emerge blinking into the sunlight and get scorched.> * On some, very rare occasions, in the past, the antarctic ozone hole > has wobbled sufficiently far off centre to affect NZ.> > ie. If you're from Africa or Australia... and don't go up to the > Alps... the UV hazard will actually be less here than back home.> > > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:30 AM E. Dunham > wrote:>> __ >> Additionally, bring or expect to buy sunblock! Especially if you're >> used to parts of the world with a normal ozone layer, you might be >> unpleasantly surprised to spend an hour or two outdoors on a cold or >> even overcast day and end up burned.>> >> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Andrew Donnellan wrote: >>> 11 degrees sounds positively pleasant compared to the next week of >>> maximums at http://www.bom.gov.au/act/forecasts/canberra.shtml>>> Looking forward to it being as freezing as possible! >>> >>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 06:46, John Carter >>> wrote:>>>> I would caution that Steven has a local's perception of >>>> temperature....>>>> >>>> At the moment outside it's 11 degrees C. >>>> >>>> Before acclimatizing to this place I would have classed today as >>>> "#%@#! freezing, one notch above winter".>>>> >>>> So it depends on where you come from.... and the weather on >>>> the day.>>>> >>>> Our weather is mostly determined by a (near weekly) cycle of cold >>>> fronts sweeping across the southern oceans... if we have a >>>> Southerly (like right now)... it will be substantially cold(er).>>>> >>>> >>>> Otherwise it should be (mostly) a balmy warm summer. :-) >>>> >>>> If you aim to go to the Alp's in the before / after conference.... >>>> the peaks near Arthur's Pass are currently below freezing with a >>>> wind chill of -6 at the moment.>>>> >>>> But on a warm day will be quite pleasant. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:28 AM Steven Sykes >>>> wrote:>>>>> >>>>> On 14/01/19 2:21 AM, Russell Coker wrote: >>>>>> How much going outside will be involved at this one and how >>>>>> effective will air- conditioners be? Will we need to wear >>>>>> jackets inside or will shorts and t- shirt (the most suitable >>>>>> clothing for outside according to the weather forecast last time >>>>>> I checked) be ok for the entire day?>>>>> The UC campus allows you to get a lot of fresh air and see the >>>>> sun, assuming it shows itself.>>>>> Always a good to idea to keep a watch on this page: >>>>> https://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/christchurch/christchurch-city>>>>> And then plan your day accordingly. But, typically, shorts and T- >>>>> shirt with a light jersery/jack as backup should see you through.>>>>> Cheers, >>>>> -- >>>>> Steven Sykes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Chair, LCA 2019 >>>>> Twitter: @linuxconfau[1] >>>>> Web: linux.conf.au/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chat mailing list >>>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> John Carter >>>> Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 >>>> Tait Electronics >>>> PO Box 1645 Christchurch >>>> New Zealand >>>> >>>> This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email >>>> on the>>>> basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Donnellan >>> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > John Carter > Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 > Tait Electronics > PO Box 1645 Christchurch > New Zealand > > This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive > email on the> basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer > Links: 1. https://twitter.com/linuxconfau -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would be more than happy because I'm already trying to run a miniconf. At present leaning towards Friday lunchtime, unless there's objections. https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Kernel_Hardening_BoF -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chair at lca2019.org Tue Jan 15 18:17:38 2019 From: chair at lca2019.org (Steven Sykes) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 20:17:38 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Brian May] Bus from airport In-Reply-To: <877ef7ez53.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <877ef9gur2.fsf@silverfish.pri> <87imyrg2nx.fsf@silverfish.pri> <79e61b8c-967d-e4ab-be0d-56c38f9c1077@lca2019.org> <877ef7ez53.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: On 15/01/19 9:56 AM, Brian May wrote: > Steven Sykes writes: > >> Yes, you can buy the Metrocard from the University bookshop and it's >> $20. It's $10 for the card with the other $10 being the minimum top up. > According to the wiki, registration is compulsory. As in providing your > home address... > > But looks like "Country" is not a field, does this mean I need to > register using the address of my accomodation instead? Yeah that's what I'd do, since it'll be your home away from home. :) Cheers, -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Dunham wrote: > I have personally gotten a lot more sunburned in NZ than in Hawaii or Oregon, on days that "feel" equally sunny. This could be psychosomatic because I've been told to wear sunblock more down there, or it could be from mis-judging how sunny a day is, or any of a bunch of other factors as you mentioned. FYI https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-15/tasmanian-heat-feels-hotter-than-on-mainland/10705112 > Regardless, I hope we can all agree that getting burned is a thing to be avoided and, for whatever reason, misjudging sunniness and getting burned is common for visitors to NZ. Perhaps my original point would have been better communicated without any mention of the ozone layer at all, but alas, it's set in the stone of the mailing list now. > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, at 3:34 PM, John Carter wrote: >> Careful, this is how we get climate change deniers.... >> >> ..scientific imprecision uttered so often that nobody is aware that it is wrong... >> >> I'd point at NOAA but Trump has closed it down for now.. anyway this will do... >> >> https://www.eldoradoweather.com/climate/world-maps/world-ozone.html >> >> See. NZ has a thicker ozone layer than most of the world. >> >> Less thick than Northern Europe, but substantially thicker than Australia, Africa most of Latin America.... >> >> But somehow it has entered the culture that NZ has an Ozone hole. >> >> No it hasn't. >> >> Antarctica has. From florian at hastexo.com Wed Jan 16 04:15:43 2019 From: florian at hastexo.com (Florian Haas) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 18:15:43 +0100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Late arrival at Bishop Julius Hall Sunday night / Monday morning Message-ID: <01a0ed55-bdd1-e386-773d-88c209a269e7@hastexo.com> Hi everyone, I hope I didn't miss an important wiki page, but https://linux.conf.au/attend/accommodation/ appears to be silent about this: what's the procedure for arriving at the uni halls late on Sunday night? I'm scheduled to arrive at CHC half-past midnight, so will probably be there some time between 1 and 2am Monday morning. I'll be happy to bug Bishop Julius about this if no-one else has, but thought I'd ask here first. Thanks for your help! Cheers, Florian -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15517b1c-b81a-00fb-d411-11ad810fc7b6@lca2019.org> The newcomers session? Sure has! An announcement to this list will be happening in the next day or two. Cheers, On 16/01/19 1:20 PM, Casey Schaufler wrote: > Has a time and place been determined for the 1st time attendees meeting? > > -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 2019Logo-mini.png Type: image/png Size: 9844 bytes Desc: not available URL: From marc at merlins.org Wed Jan 16 16:14:43 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 21:14:43 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Stopping somewhere during the Tranzalpine Journey? In-Reply-To: <92cd47d9-153e-cbdb-89f3-6e8e748da91e@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> <20190114022836.ravp7cr4oqm32nq2@prometheus.ethernal.org> Message-ID: <20190116051443.y2c5ljjtxmvqaiw7@merlins.org> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 03:28:36PM +1300, Mike Beattie wrote: > Are you going for the train trip, or to get to Arthurs Pass? train, just felt a bit silly riding it all the way at the end just to ride it back without really looking at anything, but it sounds like the quick stop in greymouth may be the thing to do afterall. > Honestly, I personally couldn't think of anything worse than being stuck at > Arthurs Pass for 5.5 hours - take the train through to Greymouth and enjoy > the scenery, I hear some of the best bits are on the western side of Arthurs Ack. > Basically, the train ride is a destination unto itself. the Carriages have > very large viewing windows for that very reason. That's what I read, yes. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 03:58:31PM +1300, Ewen McNeill wrote: > The Milford Track, and the Routeburn are some of the top hiking tracks in > New Zealand (and the Kepler is well up there too). The Arthur's Pass area > doesn't really come up in "top hiking tracks", except perhaps for snow/ice > mountaineering, which isn't really something that's practical in a 4-5 hour > stopover. Just finished Kpler and I actually prefered it to Routeburn, it had a lot more birds (and was lucky to get perfect weather and views). Pointed noted that Arthur pass won't come close, so I should just stay in the train :) > Personally I'd be leaning towards staying on the train and relaxing. The > West Coast geography is significantly different from the East Coast > geography, so there'll be different things to see. And it'll be a relaxing > chill out day with panoramic windows. My wife will love that idea, thanks :) Thanks for the other links though. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 03:18:21AM +0000, Nick Edwards wrote: > Hi Marc, > > Opinion from a keen tramper (hiker). I probably wouldn't bother with a 5.5 > hour stop in Arthur's Pass. There isn't much to do in the village, and 5.5 > hours isn't really long enough to do any of the tramps that really give you understood. Another vote saying the same thing :) > If you do end up at a loose end in Greymouth and are a beer drinker, > you could check out the Montheith's Brewery - I think you can just > have a look around without booking a full tour, and they have a bar > where you can do tastings and get food. I don't really rate most > of Monteith's beer, but they do have some interesting small batch > specials sometimes. Cool, thank you. On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 05:28:14PM +1300, Carl Klitscher wrote: > Otira and Arthurs Pass are mandatory stops on the route to attach and > detach the banking engines used to get through the Otira Tunnel... 8.5 km > long running under the spine of the southern Alps... And they don't let you > stand in the observation car going through it either! > > Used to have its own power station to run the electric engines but the > switch to diesel required the installation of a door at one end that closes > after the train goes through... The vacuum created then forces air past the > train so you don't all die from diesel fumes :-) > > Last time I went through the local kea kept dive bombing the train staff as > they attached the engines at Arthurs Pass... Common working hazard > apparently! Haha, too funny. Keas definitely have a mind of their own. I just brought bird seeds and paid for peace. The ones on kepler track have learned to have one attract a tourist and jump back to lure the tourist away, while the other one attacks their pack left behind. Some keas have also learned how to open back zippers and here the food is usually hidden :) Thanks all for the answers. Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Wed Jan 16 17:02:38 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 19:02:38 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] University accommodation early check in Message-ID: Just as a heads up to anyone that is: (a) arriving earlier than the rest, or (b) arriving at an "unusual" time of day (not regular office hours) It might be worth reminding the University Accommodation of when you're arriving, particularly if it's before Sunday. I'm staying at Sonoda Village, and found that while they did have a key ready for me (and it was pretty easy to find someone to check me in, late afternoon), the news hadn't made it to the cleaners/maintenance staff, so it took a few phone calls by one of the staff to actually track down bedding for my room :-) (All sorted now, but it's the sort of thing that's easier sorted "before the end of thew work" day than it probably would be if you're arriving/trying to check in at midnight....) Ewen From andrew at donnellan.id.au Wed Jan 16 18:22:10 2019 From: andrew at donnellan.id.au (Andrew Donnellan) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 18:22:10 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Kernel Hardening BoF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 16:28, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > Kernel security, it's a thing, people care about it. We've even got a > Kernel Self Protection Project and everything! > > We had a BoF last year to talk about current kernel hardening issues, and > I'm keen to see it continue. If you're interested please put your name down > on the list so we can see how much interest there is. > > If anyone's interested in taking over the organisation of this (Kees?) I > would be more than happy because I'm already trying to run a miniconf. > > At present leaning towards Friday lunchtime, unless there's objections. > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Kernel_Hardening_BoF > > There being no objections, and it being helpfully pointed out that Friday lunchtime would be nicely sandwiched between two extremely relevant talks, I've put this down for Friday lunchtime hopefully in the C2 theatre. -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrew > > Cheers, > Marek > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marek at kuziel.info Thu Jan 17 09:34:12 2019 From: marek at kuziel.info (Marek Kuziel) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 11:34:12 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] parking at UC? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Andrew. I missed that bit on the wiki. The Clyde Car Park link you posted says 4 hours max so yeah, nah. There is plenty of free parking around uni if one does not mind a short walk, or take a ride on one of those lime scooters :) Marek On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 11:27 AM Andrew Donnellan wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 09:21, Marek Kuziel wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Will there be free parking at the UC car parks for the conference >> attendees? >> > > The wiki says "Car parking for delegates is in the Clyde Car Park > , you will need a > parking coupon available from any of the on site cafes, or a pay and > display machine ticket" > > Perhaps there are more car parking options available but that's what the > wiki currently documents. > > > Andrew > > > >> >> Cheers, >> Marek >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You will have 2 lines up to 30 characters each, we don't give any guarantee around special unicode chars :-) CHeers On 17/01/19 1:33 pm, Daniel Sobey wrote: > Hi List, > > Do we know what font is going to be used to print the conference badges? > As we have 2 free form text fields to play around with it would be > nice to know what Unicode spec we have to play with. > > Regards, > > Daniel > From aenertia at aenertia.net Thu Jan 17 14:37:24 2019 From: aenertia at aenertia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?=) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 14:37:24 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Conference badge font In-Reply-To: <3e9a4d57-17c8-d469-d2eb-dac6f7feca00@lca2019.org> References: <3e9a4d57-17c8-d469-d2eb-dac6f7feca00@lca2019.org> Message-ID: Please make sure it at least renders M?ori macrons ;) its 2019 already. On Thu., 17 Jan. 2019, 14:01 Tobias Schulmann Hi > > The font is Space Mono (available on > https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Space+Mono). You will have 2 lines up > to 30 characters each, we don't give any guarantee around special > unicode chars :-) > > CHeers > > On 17/01/19 1:33 pm, Daniel Sobey wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Do we know what font is going to be used to print the conference badges? > > As we have 2 free form text fields to play around with it would be > > nice to know what Unicode spec we have to play with. > > > > Regards, > > > > Daniel > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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You will have 2 lines up >> to 30 characters each, we don't give any guarantee around special >> unicode chars :-) >> >> CHeers >> >> On 17/01/19 1:33 pm, Daniel Sobey wrote: >> > Hi List, >> > >> > Do we know what font is going to be used to print the conference badges? >> > As we have 2 free form text fields to play around with it would be >> > nice to know what Unicode spec we have to play with. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Daniel >> > >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz Thu Jan 17 15:49:01 2019 From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:49:01 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat Message-ID: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> Trying to connect to the chat channel, but: * on UCVisitor network, accessing IRC on chat.freenode.net appears to be blocked. * Trying to connect using riot (website) gives me the following error: "@appservice-irc:matrix.org kicked Brian May. Reason: IRC error on #linux.conf.au: err_needreggednick" This confuses me as I don't think I had to do anything special before. Doing a google search has suggestions for IRC, not sure that is relevant here??? This is when trying to connect to #linux.conf.au:matrix.org Non-LCA channels seem to work fine from matrix.org * I see a linuxconfau network - is this official? If so need password to connect. -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From eion at robbmob.com Thu Jan 17 15:54:58 2019 From: eion at robbmob.com (Eion Robb) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:54:58 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: If you're using Matrix, you need to auth with NickServ with a registered username before joining the room On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 17:49, Brian May wrote: > Trying to connect to the chat channel, but: > > * on UCVisitor network, accessing IRC on chat.freenode.net appears to be > blocked. > > * Trying to connect using riot (website) gives me the following error: > "@appservice-irc:matrix.org kicked Brian May. Reason: IRC error on > #linux.conf.au: err_needreggednick" > This confuses me as I don't think I had to do anything special before. > Doing a google search has suggestions for IRC, not sure that is > relevant here??? > > This is when trying to connect to #linux.conf.au:matrix.org > > Non-LCA channels seem to work fine from matrix.org > > * I see a linuxconfau network - is this official? If so need password to > connect. > -- > Brian May > https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Possibly this is something I have done before, but forgotten. -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From rcook at pcug.org.au Thu Jan 17 15:57:43 2019 From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:57:43 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <31c1a57a6804b17774dafd54e7940be2@pcug.org.au> On 2019-01-17 15:49, Brian May wrote: > Trying to connect to the chat channel, but: > > * on UCVisitor network, accessing IRC on chat.freenode.net appears to > be > blocked. > > * Trying to connect using riot (website) gives me the following error: > "@appservice-irc:matrix.org kicked Brian May. Reason: IRC error on > #linux.conf.au: err_needreggednick" > This confuses me as I don't think I had to do anything special > before. > Doing a google search has suggestions for IRC, not sure that is > relevant here??? "err_needreggednick" You need to register with freenode. Looks like there is 60 on there atm -- Owen From chair at lca2019.org Thu Jan 17 16:00:49 2019 From: chair at lca2019.org (Steven Sykes) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:00:49 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <517f6f35-671f-67fa-ee76-6ed08dfc443b@lca2019.org> Authentication details for linuxconfau are on our site dashboard after you login. Cheers, On 17/01/19 5:49 PM, Brian May wrote: > Trying to connect to the chat channel, but: > > * on UCVisitor network, accessing IRC on chat.freenode.net appears to be > blocked. > > * Trying to connect using riot (website) gives me the following error: > "@appservice-irc:matrix.org kicked Brian May. Reason: IRC error on > #linux.conf.au: err_needreggednick" > This confuses me as I don't think I had to do anything special before. > Doing a google search has suggestions for IRC, not sure that is > relevant here??? > > This is when trying to connect to #linux.conf.au:matrix.org > > Non-LCA channels seem to work fine from matrix.org > > * I see a linuxconfau network - is this official? If so need password to > connect. -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The text we provided on our web page about Sonoda was provided by them, rather than written by us. I have left a voice mail and written an email to my contact there, Franziska Haas, who is the Business Development Manager. If you needed to, perhaps you name show them this reply? Cheers, -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Possibly this is something I have done before, but >> forgotten. > > There's a page for that > > https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration ...and if you're doing that through the riot.im client, see: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/End-user-FAQ#how-do-i-registeridentify-to-nickserv TL;DR: - Chat to @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org to register / identify - Chat to @appservice-irc to store the password for later use (I wonder where it's stored and how secure it is in this case?) HTH, Tim -- Tim Serong Senior Clustering Engineer SUSE tserong at suse.com From mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com Thu Jan 17 16:14:01 2019 From: mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com (Matt Cengia) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 00:14:01 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <47b95afb-f758-8c21-b4e0-adefb3f81581@nerdvana.org.au> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> <87ef9bnapp.fsf@silverfish.pri> <47b95afb-f758-8c21-b4e0-adefb3f81581@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: <5e05cdf7-ab26-44a8-8e59-292e01ae97c0@www.fastmail.com> To supplement the instructions at https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration, it appears that to start a PM with NickServ via Matrix, the account to start a chat with is @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org. On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, at 16:08, Steve Walsh wrote: > On 17/1/19 3:56 pm, Brian May wrote: >> Eion Robb writes: >> >>> If you're using Matrix, you need to auth with NickServ with a registered username before joining the room >>> >> How do I do that? Possibly this is something I have done before, but forgotten. > There's a page for that > https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > *Attachments:* > * signature.asc -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xrobau at gmail.com Thu Jan 17 16:56:47 2019 From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 15:56:47 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: To just throw some fuel on the fire, irccloud.com is free(mostly), and does pretty much everything you want (push notifications, file transfers, pastebin, etc) without adding another gateway in the mix. You will still need to /msg nickserv register when you're in, but - to me - it's much simpler. --Rob On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 14:49, Brian May wrote: > Trying to connect to the chat channel, but: > > * on UCVisitor network, accessing IRC on chat.freenode.net appears to be > blocked. > > * Trying to connect using riot (website) gives me the following error: > "@appservice-irc:matrix.org kicked Brian May. Reason: IRC error on > #linux.conf.au: err_needreggednick" > This confuses me as I don't think I had to do anything special before. > Doing a google search has suggestions for IRC, not sure that is > relevant here??? > > This is when trying to connect to #linux.conf.au:matrix.org > > Non-LCA channels seem to work fine from matrix.org > > * I see a linuxconfau network - is this official? If so need password to > connect. > -- > Brian May > https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz Thu Jan 17 18:20:31 2019 From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 18:20:31 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> <87ef9bnapp.fsf@silverfish.pri> <47b95afb-f758-8c21-b4e0-adefb3f81581@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: <878szjn41s.fsf@silverfish.pri> Tim Serong writes: > https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/End-user-FAQ#how-do-i-registeridentify-to-nickserv > > TL;DR: > > - Chat to @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org to register / identify > > - Chat to @appservice-irdddddc to store the password for later use (I wonder > where it's stored and how secure it is in this case?) Hmm... Not sure I really see any benefit to using the Matrix if I still have to register to IRC, might as well just use IRC direct... IRC works now that I am using the linux.conf.au network. Thanks everybody. -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From david at bell.id.au Thu Jan 17 19:31:11 2019 From: david at bell.id.au (David Bell) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 19:31:11 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Boarding passes and Monday morning rego Message-ID: <430156EF-32B8-4878-920A-ADC76DA152C3@bell.id.au> Are we having boarding passes that we need to download before we arrive this year? Where can I find registration on Monday morning and when does it open? And where is the keynote venue? Sorry if I missed that email! Thanks, David -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Same fields on badges from LCA 2017 could fit an entire GPG key fingerprint (incl. spaces) and I think this is what you should be aiming for as well ( https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonlyall/sets/72157677530378701). Perhaps keep the mono-space font, but make it smaller? Best regards, Giorgi Tavkelishvili [image: http://u.fsf.org/16e] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From irving at irving-st.id.au Thu Jan 17 21:43:40 2019 From: irving at irving-st.id.au (Irving) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 21:43:40 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Free text fields on badges should allow for more characters In-Reply-To: References: <15517b1c-b81a-00fb-d411-11ad810fc7b6@lca2019.org> Message-ID: <342b6373-a314-02e1-8dce-dfd333292011@irving-st.id.au> Hello, Same problem here; also I notice the sponsors are labeled "Emporer" Penguin Sponsors; might want to fix that too. Cheers, Irving Tjiptowarsono On 17/1/19 9:39 pm, Giorgi T. wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Badge preview at https://linux.conf.au/tickets/mybadge shows free text > fields truncated >= 35 characters. Same fields on badges from LCA 2017 > could fit an entire GPG key fingerprint (incl. spaces) and I think > this is what you should be aiming for as well > (https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonlyall/sets/72157677530378701). > Perhaps keep the mono-space font, but make it smaller? > > Best regards, > Giorgi Tavkelishvili > > http://u.fsf.org/16e > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yes, it's Yet Another App/Messenger?, but it's Free, and a massive improvement over XMPP, to the point where it is cutting edge. And in fact, e2e encryption in Matrix is the most advanced in the industry, no other player has multi-device double-ratchets. ?) https://twitter.com/actuallyalice/status/990889721525161986 -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net "they redundantly repeated themselves over and over, incessantly without end and ad infinitum" -- ibid spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, I've updated https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Chat_%26_discussions#Join_the_conference_channel_.23linux.conf.au:matrix.org -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net weapon, n.: an index of the lack of development of a culture. spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: digital_signature_gpg.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1118 bytes Desc: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) URL: From madduck at madduck.net Fri Jan 18 05:28:28 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 07:28:28 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lightning talks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190117182828.GC8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> also sprach Michael Still [2019-01-17 22:34 +1300]: >is there a signup process for lightning talks announced yet? If >there was, I'd totally do that thing. You'll have to wait for this to happen on-site. -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net "being shot is not as bad as i always thought it might be. as long as you can keep the fear from your mind." -- special agent dale cooper spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lessons could perhaps be learnt from the signups for the Hardware Miniconf. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.simonlyall.com/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar From madduck at madduck.net Fri Jan 18 07:39:37 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:39:37 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lightning talks In-Reply-To: References: <20190117182828.GC8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: <20190117203937.GB21272@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> also sprach Simon Lyall [2019-01-18 08:18 +1300]: >Lessons could perhaps be learnt from the signups for the Hardware >Miniconf. I think the main issue is that there's always *too many* proposals. It's been great to see the team last year switch from first-come-first-picked to a curated process. Opening the submissions for that even earlier will just put extra burden on them to select the few lightning talks we can have. I think there is definitely value in requiring people to physically submit a piece of paper (= effort) at the right time (= need to pay attention) as a means to pre-filter the submissions to just the set of people who really want to speak, rather than just those who are just quick to put their name down for everything. -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net heisenberg may have been here. spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What's on a curated list of talks is what the hive mind thinks is great. The great thing about lightning talks is it allows the long tail to wag. On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:39 AM martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Simon Lyall [2019-01-18 08:18 +1300]: > >Lessons could perhaps be learnt from the signups for the Hardware > >Miniconf. > > I think the main issue is that there's always *too many* proposals. > It's been great to see the team last year switch from > first-come-first-picked to a curated process. Opening the > submissions for that even earlier will just put extra burden on them > to select the few lightning talks we can have. 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It also really improved the quality, and let us make sure we had a truly wide range of topics. I really hope we continue curating talks into this year too. > > I'm a flea that lives on the end of the long tail... > > What's on a curated list of talks is what the hive mind thinks is great. > > The great thing about lightning talks is it allows the long tail to wag. > -- --Christopher Neugebauer Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Fri Jan 18 09:03:13 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 11:03:13 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lightning talks In-Reply-To: References: <20190117182828.GC8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <20190117203937.GB21272@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: <460a34b3-d43c-58ed-a423-f4bc9849a930@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 18/01/19 10:27 AM, Christopher Neugebauer wrote: > We experimented with curation last year to make sure that new speakers > got a chance to go on stage, and also to make sure that some of the > same old faces didn't chew up all the available time. Curation really > helped with that. It also really improved the quality, and let us make > sure we had a truly wide range of topics. I really hope we continue > curating talks into this year too. FWIW, I *really* liked the approach chosen at PyConAU 2018 of having half the lightning talk speakers be brand new speakers (never spoken before at the conference), and the other half being "open to all" (but heavily curated). It'd be great if we could do this at LCA2019 too. I agree with others, lightning talks can be some of the best presentation sessions at a conference, particularly in terms of hearing about a wide variety of things to look into more later. And some of the best lightning talks tend to be the "how can I fit lots of awesome content into 5 minutes" (pjf is excellent at this :-) ), rather than the "it's only 5 minutes, I'll just wing it" lightning talks. So encouraging more planned talks than "sure, I'll sign up while it's open" helps too. Ewen From hugh at blemings.org Fri Jan 18 09:19:10 2019 From: hugh at blemings.org (Hugh Blemings) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:19:10 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lightning talks In-Reply-To: References: <20190117182828.GC8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <20190117203937.GB21272@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: <334db5fa-ffca-74d7-8b62-ab680b37a438@blemings.org> On 18/1/19 08:27, Christopher Neugebauer wrote: > Hello from your favourite Lightning Talk Czar! > > On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 13:10, John Carter wrote: >> >>> I think the main issue is that there's always *too many* proposals. >> >> So break 'em up into streams and run two streams... > > At LCA, there's _always_ too many lightning talks. In most years, > we've had numerous miniconfs with lightning talks, as well as plenary > lightning talks at the end of the main conference. > > We experimented with curation last year to make sure that new speakers > got a chance to go on stage, and also to make sure that some of the > same old faces didn't chew up all the available time. Curation really > helped with that. It also really improved the quality, and let us make > sure we had a truly wide range of topics. I really hope we continue > curating talks into this year too. I'll volunteer to give you a hand with this curating Chris - many hands make light work and all that :) Cheers, Hugh From geekscape at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 09:26:52 2019 From: geekscape at gmail.com (Andy Gelme) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 09:26:52 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lightning talks In-Reply-To: References: <20190117182828.GC8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: hi Simon Lyall, On 18/1/19 06:18, Simon Lyall wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019, martin f krafft wrote: >> also sprach Michael Still [2019-01-17 22:34 +1300]: >>> is there a signup process for lightning talks announced yet? If >>> there was, I'd totally do that thing. >> >> You'll have to wait for this to happen on-site. > > Lessons could perhaps be learnt from the signups for the Hardware > Miniconf Your request to give a lightning talk at the Open Hardware Mini-Conference has been accepted. Title: "How the Open Hardware organizers can do much better, including registration sign-up, Call for Presentations and Lightning talks" I'd highly recommend that discussing the problems and providing some practical solutions as part of your talk would be great ! The OHMC lightning talks run from 4:40 pm to 5:30 pm.? Will 5 minutes be enough ... or would you like 10 minutes ? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In all seriousness ... after we've fallen across the line on Monday at 5:30 pm (we'll be a little tired by then) ... please feel welcome to catch up with me (and Jon) and share your thoughts and *some solutions* about your perceptions of what we need to improve and how.? Even if we get nothing else right, we do try our best to listen to positive critique and suggestions. I've found the Linux Conference organizers and attendees to be fantastic people who tend to offer *real* help when they see someone else (like us) needs it.? Over the last 9 years and including 2019, we've had countless contributors, helpers and suggestions that have lifted us across the line.? And the OHMC attendees take the workshop as it comes and makes the most of it ... including our (not great) lightning talk process, which is mostly done informally, on-the-day. Note: Our wiki and registration process includes information about CfP and Lightning talks ... ?? http://www.openhardwareconf.org/wiki/OHMC2019#Lightning_Talks To all those organizing a Mini-Conference this year ... best of luck !? See you on the other side :) regards andyg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I appreciate being supplied enough information and clear communication to have my expectations managed, is what I'm saying, I guess. :) On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, at 21:39, Giorgi T. wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Badge preview at https://linux.conf.au/tickets/mybadge -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From judge.packham at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 13:02:59 2019 From: judge.packham at gmail.com (Chris Packham) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:02:59 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule Message-ID: Is there a way to get a printable schedule? In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. I can't remember if they worked last year. https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ From j at jaesharp.com Fri Jan 18 13:25:01 2019 From: j at jaesharp.com (J Lynn) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:25:01 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Monitor hire? Message-ID: G'day All, I am wondering if there is a monitor/tv hire shop and/or a local who'd be willing to hire me a monitor and/or tv for the week for personal use at Uni Accoms. I'll be at Uni Accoms from early Sunday afternoon to Saturday morning and coding on the laptop can get to be quite the eye strain. Regardless of the source, I'm more than happy to provide reasonable compensation for the equipment hire. Any recommendations? Cheers - J From judge.packham at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 13:49:00 2019 From: judge.packham at gmail.com (Chris Packham) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:49:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hmm Firefox makes a complete mess of printing it but Chromium does a decent job (still 3 pages instead of 1 but I can live with that). On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:05 PM Tim McBride wrote: > > > The schedule page seems quite printer-friendly (fits on one page, looks nice), though you'd need to print each day separately. > > https://linux.conf.au/schedule/ > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Chris Packham wrote: >> >> Is there a way to get a printable schedule? >> >> In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. I >> can't remember if they worked last year. >> >> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ >> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From hugh at blemings.org Fri Jan 18 13:51:49 2019 From: hugh at blemings.org (Hugh Blemings) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:51:49 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Newcomers Welcome Session 1630h Sunday Message-ID: <5c9a3b49-96d4-f35f-b7cd-c90091ee7073@blemings.org> Hi, For those of you that are new/new-ish to linux.conf.au we will be hosting a Newcomers Welcome Session at 4:30pm on Sunday afternoon in the C1 Lecture Theatre. This the main conference venue used for keynotes etc. Presented by a small panel of experts and yours truly, this somewhat informal session will share some hints and tips for getting the most out of your LCA experience and a little of the events history. We expect to finish by 5:30pm at which point it is suggested that folk that so wish to repair to the UC Staff Club across the road for refreshments. If you can't make the session for some reason don't worry overmuch - the official conference open on Monday morning will give you the key things you need to know. Kind Regards, Hugh From j at jaesharp.com Fri Jan 18 14:05:59 2019 From: j at jaesharp.com (J Lynn) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 14:05:59 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Monitor hire? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <25eff157-10c2-a8b6-51c5-e7756baad70e@jaesharp.com> Thanks heaps to everyone that responded. I've gotten an arrangement in place with Eion who was the first to respond. Cheers! - J On 18/1/19 1:25 pm, J Lynn wrote: > G'day All, I am wondering if there is a monitor/tv hire shop and/or a > local who'd be willing to hire me a monitor and/or tv for the week for > personal use at Uni Accoms. I'll be at Uni Accoms from early Sunday > afternoon to Saturday morning and coding on the laptop can get to be > quite the eye strain. Regardless of the source, I'm more than happy to > provide reasonable compensation for the equipment hire. Any > recommendations? Cheers - J From tmcbride at twopicode.com.au Fri Jan 18 13:05:17 2019 From: tmcbride at twopicode.com.au (Tim McBride) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 13:05:17 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The schedule page seems quite printer-friendly (fits on one page, looks nice), though you'd need to print each day separately. https://linux.conf.au/schedule/ On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Chris Packham wrote: > Is there a way to get a printable schedule? > > In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. I > can't remember if they worked last year. > > https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ > https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patrick at thepatrick.io Fri Jan 18 13:44:17 2019 From: patrick at thepatrick.io (Patrick Quinn-Graham) Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 21:44:17 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] =?utf-8?q?Free_text_fields_on_badges_should_allow?= =?utf-8?q?_for_more_characters?= In-Reply-To: <8f04ad80-8d05-4f8b-a229-f5e37f7e5962@www.fastmail.com> References: <15517b1c-b81a-00fb-d411-11ad810fc7b6@lca2019.org> <8f04ad80-8d05-4f8b-a229-f5e37f7e5962@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Likewise - I used the preview to add some extra spacing to my name to force it on to two lines, I really appreciate it as well! (Although if magically it was possible to include the ???? emoji it'd be awesome, I don't have any suitable stickers to decorate it myself) On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, at 9:49 AM, Matt Cengia wrote: > Thanks for the badge preview folks! I really appreciate being able to check how our badges will look before printing. I, for example, have removed the ???? emoji from mine because it rendered poorly. This is totally fine, but knowing this means that I can find another way to decorate my badge (e.g. a sticker). > > I appreciate being supplied enough information and clear communication to have my expectations managed, is what I'm saying, I guess. :) > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2019, at 21:39, Giorgi T. wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Badge preview at https://linux.conf.au/tickets/mybadge > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jkristen at theintraweb.net Fri Jan 18 20:08:29 2019 From: jkristen at theintraweb.net (John Kristensen) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 20:08:29 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <70fbcabc-d965-0e42-2a18-c3d8e162cab2@theintraweb.net> On 17/1/19 3:49 pm, Brian May wrote: > Trying to connect to the chat channel, but: > > * Trying to connect using riot (website) gives me the following error: > "@appservice-irc:matrix.org kicked Brian May. Reason: IRC error on > #linux.conf.au: err_needreggednick" > This confuses me as I don't think I had to do anything special before. > Doing a google search has suggestions for IRC, not sure that is > relevant here??? > > This is when trying to connect to #linux.conf.au:matrix.org > > Non-LCA channels seem to work fine from matrix.org The requirement for a registered IRC nick has been a real annoyance for Matrix users since a lot of Freenode channels started requiring only registered nicks in an attempt to combat spam. Ideally it would be great if the chan ops could white list users coming from the Matrix gateway so that they don't hit these problems. A bit more information about configuring this can be found at: https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/End-user-FAQ#i-am-a-chanop-and-have-a-spam-problem-how-can-i-fix-it-without-affecting-matrix-users If we are trying to encourage people to use unified communication channels, then we really should be trying to make the onboarding process as simple as possible... asking people to register IRC nicks and use them via Matrix is not simple (I'm fairly experience with both IRC and Matrix and I still have to fumble my way through it when something breaks). If we can't provide a simple and unified experience, people will start asking for a Slack instance to be set up again. Cheers, John. From simon at darkmere.gen.nz Fri Jan 18 20:35:17 2019 From: simon at darkmere.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 22:35:17 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Free text fields on badges should allow for more characters In-Reply-To: References: <15517b1c-b81a-00fb-d411-11ad810fc7b6@lca2019.org> <8f04ad80-8d05-4f8b-a229-f5e37f7e5962@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Jan 2019, Patrick Quinn-Graham wrote: > Badge preview at https://linux.conf.au/tickets/mybadge The character count seems to be down from previous years. Just 2 or 3 [1] freeform lines of 37(?) characters. 2017 was 3 lines of approx 60 characters. [1] I'm on Hobbyist and "Company" line isn't showing up on the preview. It did work in previous years. Guess this is a peak of the professional ticket :) -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.simonlyall.com/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar From ianwilliamson.nz at gmail.com Fri Jan 18 20:53:01 2019 From: ianwilliamson.nz at gmail.com (Ian Williamson) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 22:53:01 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: <20190117182750.GB8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> <87ef9bnapp.fsf@silverfish.pri> <47b95afb-f758-8c21-b4e0-adefb3f81581@nerdvana.org.au> <20190117182750.GB8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: Hi Martin I'm still getting kicked for needreggednick What do I need to do? start a chat with @_linux.conf.au_NickServ:matrix.org or @linux.conf.au_NickServ:matrix.org or @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org and say in the chat "register " ? Regards Ian (3ccles) On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 07:28, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Tim Serong [2019-01-17 18:12 +1300]: > >TL;DR: > > > >- Chat to @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org to register / identify > > > >- Chat to @appservice-irc to store the password for later use (I wonder > >where it's stored and how secure it is in this case?) > > Thanks, I've updated > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Chat_%26_discussions#Join_the_conference_channel_.23linux.conf.au:matrix.org > > -- > @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net > > weapon, n.: > an index of the lack of development of a culture. > > spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We're seriously considering not bringing it due to the amount of paperwork involved, and the need to know in advance what walks etc we will be doing. -- Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 skype: alastair_dsilva msn: alastair at d-silva.org blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org Twitter: @EvilDeece From mike at ethernal.org Fri Jan 18 21:24:51 2019 From: mike at ethernal.org (Mike Beattie) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:24:51 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Drones is the south island In-Reply-To: <037c01d4af15$b7e26ab0$27a74010$@d-silva.org> References: <037c01d4af15$b7e26ab0$27a74010$@d-silva.org> Message-ID: <20190118102451.mxwym6d2h3udrfk3@prometheus.ethernal.org> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 09:08:11PM +1100, Alastair D'Silva wrote: > Hi folks, > > I was contemplating bringing my quad down since we'll be touring the south > island post conference Is it just me, or are the drone regs in NZ heavily > fractured, laborious and confusing? We're seriously considering not bringing > it due to the amount of paperwork involved, and the need to know in advance > what walks etc we will be doing. You cannot fly drones on DoC land (most of the walks you're talking about) without a concession, which are not quick to obtain, and also not free. Drone usage over public land requires approval from the local governing body, see: https://www.airshare.co.nz/ Over private land requires permission from the land owner. Inside controlled airspace requires permission from the appropriate ATC unit (airshare will help with this). Operation near airports (within 4km) require NOTAMs to be filed. That's the summary from the top of my head, I am happy to be corrected. Mike. -- Mike Beattie From madduck at madduck.net Fri Jan 18 21:43:16 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 23:43:16 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] online chat In-Reply-To: References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> <87ef9bnapp.fsf@silverfish.pri> <47b95afb-f758-8c21-b4e0-adefb3f81581@nerdvana.org.au> <20190117182750.GB8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: <20190118104316.GA1449@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> also sprach Ian Williamson [2019-01-18 22:53 +1300]: >Start a chat with @freenode_NickServ:[3]matrix.org and say in the >chat "register " Yes, that. -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net "man soll nicht in kirchen gehn, wenn man reine luft atmen will." - friedrich nietzsche spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Fri., 18 Jan. 2019, 20:53 Ian Williamson Hi Martin > > I'm still getting kicked for needreggednick > > What do I need to do? > > start a chat with @_linux.conf.au_NickServ:matrix.org > or @linux.conf.au_NickServ:matrix.org or @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org > > and say in the chat "register " > ? > > Regards > Ian (3ccles) > > > On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 07:28, martin f krafft wrote: > >> also sprach Tim Serong [2019-01-17 18:12 +1300]: >> >TL;DR: >> > >> >- Chat to @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org to register / identify >> > >> >- Chat to @appservice-irc to store the password for later use (I wonder >> >where it's stored and how secure it is in this case?) >> >> Thanks, I've updated >> https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Chat_%26_discussions#Join_the_conference_channel_.23linux.conf.au:matrix.org >> >> -- >> @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net >> >> weapon, n.: >> an index of the lack of development of a culture. >> >> spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If you are one of those people, please join the group, there is important information in there (including workshop prerequisites & payment information). https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/lca2019-home-automation-workshop -- Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 skype: alastair_dsilva msn: alastair at d-silva.org blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org Twitter: @EvilDeece From bernie at codewiz.org Sat Jan 19 20:59:22 2019 From: bernie at codewiz.org (Bernie Innocenti) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 18:59:22 +0900 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47f2d18a-4fcf-3b2b-3946-b0454fa5c2a5@codewiz.org> I get a single page PDF when printing from Chrome 71.0.3578.98. On 18/01/2019 11.49, Chris Packham wrote: > Hmm Firefox makes a complete mess of printing it but Chromium does a > decent job (still 3 pages instead of 1 but I can live with that). > > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:05 PM Tim McBride wrote: >> >> >> The schedule page seems quite printer-friendly (fits on one page, looks nice), though you'd need to print each day separately. >> >> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/ >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Chris Packham wrote: >>> >>> Is there a way to get a printable schedule? >>> >>> In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. I >>> can't remember if they worked last year. >>> >>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ >>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ https://codewiz.org/ From dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au Sat Jan 19 21:14:04 2019 From: dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au (Daryl Tester) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 20:44:04 +1030 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] =?utf-8?q?Linux_Conf_Wifi_password=3F?= Message-ID: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Y'all. Probably a little early, except I noticed at the Julia Bishop Hall (what, it's not called that?) is already advertising the linuxconfau ssid, so has the password been made available yet? The UCVisitor guest wifi is blocking some convenient ports, like IMAP ... -- Regards, Daryl Tester Handcrafted Computers Pty. Ltd. From abartlet at samba.org Sat Jan 19 21:20:46 2019 From: abartlet at samba.org (Andrew Bartlett) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:20:46 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Message-ID: <1547893246.7105.14.camel@samba.org> On Sat, 2019-01-19 at 20:44 +1030, Daryl Tester wrote: > ?Y'all. > > ?Probably a little early, except I noticed at the Julia Bishop > ?Hall (what, it's not called that?) is already advertising > ?the linuxconfau ssid, so has the password been made > ?available yet???The UCVisitor guest wifi is blocking > ?some convenient ports, like IMAP ... It is available on the dashboard via the conference website. (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) Andrew Bartlett -- Andrew Bartlett http://samba.org/~abartlet/ Authentication Developer, Samba Team http://samba.org Samba Developer, Catalyst IT http://catalyst.net.nz/services/samba From mcluseau at isi.nc Sat Jan 19 21:28:38 2019 From: mcluseau at isi.nc (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mika=EBl_Cluseau?=) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:28:38 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Message-ID: <32647d3a-d91e-4c2e-b741-44dd4b2d6af3@email.android.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at nerdvana.org.au Sat Jan 19 21:43:46 2019 From: steve at nerdvana.org.au (Steve Walsh) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:43:46 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Message-ID: <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> the welcome flyer in your room has some temporary credentials you can use to access the dashboard and get the conf wifi password. Alternatively, if you can find another delegate and can identify yourself via the secret handshake, they may also let you know what it is. Please note, the secret handshake details are also not to be disclosed on the mailing list. On 19/1/19 9:14 pm, Daryl Tester wrote: > Y'all. > > Probably a little early, except I noticed at the Julia Bishop > Hall (what, it's not called that?) is already advertising > the linuxconfau ssid, so has the password been made > available yet?? The UCVisitor guest wifi is blocking > some convenient ports, like IMAP ... > From dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au Sat Jan 19 22:07:20 2019 From: dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au (Daryl Tester) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:37:20 +1030 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] =?utf-8?q?Linux_Conf_Wifi_password=3F?= In-Reply-To: <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: <63a4df198a166ea1bae2683be53db397@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:20:46 +1300, Andrew Bartlett wrote: > It is available on the dashboard via the conference website. > > (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) I don't expect it to be disclosed to the list, just *somewhere* (and it's not immediately obvious that that's where it could be found). On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:43:46 +1100, Steve Walsh wrote: > the welcome flyer in your room has some temporary credentials you can > use to access the dashboard and get the conf wifi password. Yep, as noted, got that far. > Alternatively, if you can find another delegate and can identify > yourself via the secret handshake, they may also let you know what it > is. They didn't know either. Hence, here we are. -- Regards, Daryl Tester Handcrafted Computers Pty. Ltd. From russell at coker.com.au Sat Jan 19 22:16:42 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 22:16:42 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Money change In-Reply-To: <63a4df198a166ea1bae2683be53db397@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <63a4df198a166ea1bae2683be53db397@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Message-ID: <7591B63C-A0C2-427C-8FB7-C9E68F91D968@coker.com.au> Any Kiwi want to swap $NZ for $AU at the xe.com spot rate? This will be about 5% better than you will get from any of the money change companies so if you want to visit Australia in the near future it will save you. Please reply off list. On 19 January 2019 10:07:20 pm AEDT, Daryl Tester wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:20:46 +1300, Andrew Bartlett wrote: > >> It is available on the dashboard via the conference website. >> >> (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) > > I don't expect it to be disclosed to the list, just *somewhere* > (and it's not immediately obvious that that's where it could be > found). > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:43:46 +1100, Steve Walsh wrote: > >> the welcome flyer in your room has some temporary credentials you can >> use to access the dashboard and get the conf wifi password. > > Yep, as noted, got that far. > >> Alternatively, if you can find another delegate and can identify >> yourself via the secret handshake, they may also let you know what it >> is. > > They didn't know either. Hence, here we are. -- Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 with K-9 Mail. From russell at coker.com.au Sat Jan 19 22:20:19 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 22:20:19 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Airport scanners In-Reply-To: <63a4df198a166ea1bae2683be53db397@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <63a4df198a166ea1bae2683be53db397@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Message-ID: <43D38565-883E-44BD-ADE0-1F1BAB74698B@coker.com.au> In Tullamarine (and maybe other Australian airports) they now have full body scanners. These take ages and have more potential for health issues. The full body scanners are closer to the entry area than the regular metal detectors and they are significantly larger. After you deposit your hand luggage for the x ray you have to walk towards a full body scanner and a metal detector. Casually walk towards the metal detector (on the right where I went through it) and you will save yourself some hassle. On 19 January 2019 10:07:20 pm AEDT, Daryl Tester wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:20:46 +1300, Andrew Bartlett wrote: > >> It is available on the dashboard via the conference website. >> >> (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) > > I don't expect it to be disclosed to the list, just *somewhere* > (and it's not immediately obvious that that's where it could be > found). > > On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:43:46 +1100, Steve Walsh wrote: > >> the welcome flyer in your room has some temporary credentials you can >> use to access the dashboard and get the conf wifi password. > > Yep, as noted, got that far. > >> Alternatively, if you can find another delegate and can identify >> yourself via the secret handshake, they may also let you know what it >> is. > > They didn't know either. Hence, here we are. -- Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 with K-9 Mail. From marc at merlins.org Sun Jan 20 06:04:57 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 11:04:57 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <1547893246.7105.14.camel@samba.org> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <1547893246.7105.14.camel@samba.org> Message-ID: <20190119190457.h7puc5rqeaucp2gp@merlins.org> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:20:46PM +1300, Andrew Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 2019-01-19 at 20:44 +1030, Daryl Tester wrote: > > ?Y'all. > > > > ?Probably a little early, except I noticed at the Julia Bishop > > ?Hall (what, it's not called that?) is already advertising > > ?the linuxconfau ssid, so has the password been made > > ?available yet???The UCVisitor guest wifi is blocking > > ?some convenient ports, like IMAP ... > > It is available on the dashboard via the conference website. > > (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) Not that I really care, but why? 1) are there really many people not from the conf on this list? 2) is it terrible if a handful of non conference attendees end up with the wifi password? Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From chair at lca2019.org Sun Jan 20 06:24:59 2019 From: chair at lca2019.org (Steven Sykes) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 08:24:59 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] It's time Message-ID: Hello everyone! Tomorrow it's on like Donkey Kong as we officially kick off linux.conf.au for 2019! Get Started =========== We'll be starting at 9am sharp tomorrow so make sure you've got yourself seated in one of the C block lecture theatres ready to begin. Because of the size of the rooms we'll be streaming from C1 into C2 and C3. So if you prefer the live version get yourself into C1 post haste. To make the experience a little more inclusive we will be crowd streaming from C2 and C3 into C1. This is on a closed circuit system run by our marvellous AV team so that whoever is speaking at the 9-10am time slot each day gets to see everyone. The streaming feed is not being recorded. You can find the C block lecture theatres here: https://osm.org/go/uoyLw_0zp--?m= Registration Desk ================= Our airport registration desk is due to conclude at 12pm today, but if you've missed it's not all bad. Our main registration desk will open today from 2pm in the foyer of the C block lecture theatres at the University of Canterbury. Even if you did register at the airport you may still want to pop in today if you're at a loose end and collect your swag bag. New Comers Session ================== Hugh Blemings will be running this session this afternoon in C1, starting at 4:30pm. Afterwards there is an informal gathering at the UC Staff Club from around 5:30pm, although you may wish to head there from 5pm if you choose. The Staff Club is a beautiful building, which you can find here: https://osm.org/go/uoyLwY9R4--?m= Monday and Tuesday events ========================= The Staff Club is a wonderful place to hang out, so if you want more of it then you'll enjoy the events lined up for you. Monday night from 5pm there is a wine tasting evening, plus on Tuesday there's a beer tasting. Both evening run until around 9pm. Looking forward to seeing you all very soon! -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ From sprinkmeier at fastmail.com Sun Jan 20 06:43:13 2019 From: sprinkmeier at fastmail.com (Thomas Sprinkmeier) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 08:43:13 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <20190119190457.h7puc5rqeaucp2gp@merlins.org> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <1547893246.7105.14.camel@samba.org> <20190119190457.h7puc5rqeaucp2gp@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20190120084313.6c0856ad@snowflake> On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 11:04:57 -0800 Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 11:20:46PM +1300, Andrew Bartlett wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-01-19 at 20:44 +1030, Daryl Tester wrote: .. > > (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) > > Not that I really care, but why? > > 1) are there really many people not from the conf on this list? > 2) is it terrible if a handful of non conference attendees end up with > the wifi password? If it doesn't make any sense then it's probably a policy :-) I suspect in order to be allowed to re-use campus infrastructure you have to agree to certain rules (like "no open access") which were made many moons ago when "free WiFi" was unheard of. Thomas From secretary at lca2019.org Sun Jan 20 07:51:44 2019 From: secretary at lca2019.org (Tobias Schulmann) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 09:51:44 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] It's time In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 20/01/19 8:24 am, Steven Sykes wrote: > Registration Desk > ================= > Our airport registration desk is due to conclude at 12pm today, but if > you've missed it's not all bad. Our main registration desk will open > today from 2pm in the foyer of the C block lecture theatres at the > University of Canterbury. Even if you did register at the airport you > may still want to pop in today if you're at a loose end and collect > your swag bag. Our Airport rego desk is NOW CLOSED due to unforeseen circumstances (again). We're really sorry and wanted to keep it open to greet you all at the Airport :( But we're looking forward to seeing you at the University of Canterbury soon. From ian at catalyst.net.nz Sun Jan 20 08:31:20 2019 From: ian at catalyst.net.nz (Ian Beardslee) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:31:20 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> On January 19, 2019 10:43:46 AM UTC, Steve Walsh wrote: > >Alternatively, if you can find another delegate and can identify >yourself via the secret handshake, they may also let you know what it >is. After last time, I'm not doing any secret handshakes! From hamster at snap.net.nz Sun Jan 20 09:12:31 2019 From: hamster at snap.net.nz (hamster at snap.net.nz) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 11:12:31 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [off topic] Pokemon Go Message-ID: <6af9d4-oujwj2-d1gla8-8msw06xqzv1l-gymymo-78dcnfjvbcrtuchpovmtx2s-hok1bq87cmlm-h8rk6tknr804-uks19682111e9nj7zw2fh40p-5s4nzoqn1is9-kctvd1-u7csvk-e01m3jkpc90e.1547935951388@email.android.com> If any out-of-towners here are Pokemon Go players, the best place to be is the Botanic Gardens at 4pm for the Feebas event. There is no better place to be in Christchurch on such a nice day. Don't spin any stops there till the event starts... Apparently if you have spun that stop today it won't be give special tasks. If you see a guy in a hackaday t-shirt, say 'hi'. Mike. (for non-players, Pogo is not as silly as it seems. It is a good way to find points of interest, like street art, that is often overlooked....) From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Sun Jan 20 11:22:18 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:22:18 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Sysadmin Miniconf programme change / Large Data Storage BoF Message-ID: <02254501-32b7-0607-96ad-c7c837e8a3da@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> Due to travel delays (flight delayed by 24 hours!) Thomas Schoebel-Theuer will not arrive in time to present his talk at the Sysadmin Miniconf on Monday (Petabytes Data Migration and Load Balancing with Football+MARS). This was 1:50pm-2:10pm, Monday, in C1. It is now cancelled. The LCA2019 programme will hopefully be updated shortly. Thomas should arrive by Monday evening and would like to give his presentation anyway, so we have created a BoF on *Tuesday* lunchtime in C1 (same room as Sysadmin Miniconf on Monday) on Large Data Storage: https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/LargeDataStorage Our plan is that Thomas can give his prepared presentation (about 20 minutes), and then those present can discuss any related topics on large data storage / replication, including other systems / approaches (BigCluster, Sharding, etc). Because it is likely to be a smaller audience, with a more relaxed time schedule, it might also be possible to have discussion during Thomas's presentation if points come up from the presentation. Presentation description of Thomas's talk is still available on the Sysadmin Miniconf site if you're interested in hearing it: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/presentations19.html#ThomasSchoebelTheuer NOTE: the BoFs are *not* recorded. If you want to see this presentation (rather than just read slides later) come to the BoF :-) Ewen From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Sun Jan 20 11:28:45 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 13:28:45 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Sysadmin Miniconf lightning talks In-Reply-To: <02254501-32b7-0607-96ad-c7c837e8a3da@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> References: <02254501-32b7-0607-96ad-c7c837e8a3da@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> Message-ID: <6b4f84f7-9f4a-d497-dc3b-1e4dc544762a@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 20/01/19 1:22 PM, Ewen McNeill wrote: > Due to travel delays (flight delayed by 24 hours!) Thomas > Schoebel-Theuer will not arrive in time to present his talk at the > Sysadmin Miniconf on Monday [...] This was 1:50pm-2:10pm, Monday, in C1. Due to our last minute cancellation, the Sysadmin Miniconf has space for lightning talks (5-10 minutes) on Monday between 1:50pm and 2:10pm. If you have a short topic that you'd like to talk on (with or without slides) somehow related to Linux / Operations, please let us know. We'll have room for 2-4 speakers (depending on length). Please email: Sysadmin Miniconf Organisers with a title for your Miniconf and an indication that 5 minutes is sufficient (if you need longer, send a short abstract for the talk). We'd appreciate responses today (Sunday) if possible, so we can let the AV team know "there'll be lightning talks" and get them on the recording schedule, otherwise these lightning talks might be ad-hoc and not recorded. Thanks, Ewen / Simon Sysadmin Miniconf Organisers From alastair at d-silva.org Sun Jan 20 12:03:30 2019 From: alastair at d-silva.org (Alastair D'Silva) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 12:03:30 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] BoF: I want to start contributing to Open Source Message-ID: <055501d4b05b$f5435490$dfc9fdb0$@d-silva.org> Hi folks, I've created a new BoF page: https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/I_want_start_contributing_to_Open_Source The idea is to kick off a new (and hopefully interesting) project to allow people who are new to open source a safe space to contribute and learn how open source communities work. -- Alastair D'Silva mob: 0423 762 819 skype: alastair_dsilva msn: alastair at d-silva.org blog: http://alastair.d-silva.org Twitter: @EvilDeece From lca at mwheeler.org Sun Jan 20 12:11:42 2019 From: lca at mwheeler.org (Michael Wheeler) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 20:11:42 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> Message-ID: <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> Is there an alternative hand shake? I'm having trouble multiplying large prime numbers in my head. -- Michael Wheeler *@mwheeler.org On Sun, Jan 20, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Ian Beardslee wrote: > > > On January 19, 2019 10:43:46 AM UTC, Steve Walsh wrote: > > > >Alternatively, if you can find another delegate and can identify > >yourself via the secret handshake, they may also let you know what it > >is. > > After last time, I'm not doing any secret handshakes! > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > From jason at dickson.st Sun Jan 20 14:32:00 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 16:32:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Anyone traveling via Mt Cook to the conf - we left something at the cafe there Message-ID: <62FAF8AF-103A-4513-8E00-FC9A3DC918BE@dickson.st> I know it?s a long shot but is anyone going to Mt Cook before proceeding to the conference? We left something at the cafe there. They have it but we already drove a long way towards Christchurch. Too far to turn back. Let me know if you are and could grab it for us? Thanks Jason From linuxconf at libertysys.com.au Sun Jan 20 15:43:40 2019 From: linuxconf at libertysys.com.au (Paul Gear) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 17:43:40 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Advanced networking measurement and tuning Message-ID: <2e92b54e-b4b1-2fb3-8c02-51ec419a45cb@libertysys.com.au> Hi everyone, If you are a person who has perhaps read through https://blog.packagecloud.io/eng/2016/06/22/monitoring-tuning-linux-networking-stack-receiving-data/, has understood 75% of it or more, and has applied this knowledge to medium-to-large-scale production systems, I'd really like to buy you $PREFERRED_BEVERAGE_OR_THREE or $MEAL sometime this week and pick your brains about how to take good measurements and make good decisions with them. You should be able to find me by badge, by my mugshot on various social media platforms, at the Running BoF most days, and (schedule permitting) at the Jobs & OpenPOWER BoFs. Thanks in advance! Paul (https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/User:Paulgear) From rodger at donaldson.gen.nz Sat Jan 19 16:23:19 2019 From: rodger at donaldson.gen.nz (Rodger Donaldson) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 18:23:19 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Drones is the south island In-Reply-To: <20190118102451.mxwym6d2h3udrfk3@prometheus.ethernal.org> References: <037c01d4af15$b7e26ab0$27a74010$@d-silva.org> <20190118102451.mxwym6d2h3udrfk3@prometheus.ethernal.org> Message-ID: On 2019-01-18 23:24, Mike Beattie wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 09:08:11PM +1100, Alastair D'Silva wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> I was contemplating bringing my quad down since we'll be touring the >> south >> island post conference Is it just me, or are the drone regs in NZ >> heavily >> fractured, laborious and confusing? We're seriously considering not >> bringing >> it due to the amount of paperwork involved, and the need to know in >> advance >> what walks etc we will be doing. > > You cannot fly drones on DoC land (most of the walks you're talking > about) > without a concession, which are not quick to obtain, and also not free. > > Drone usage over public land requires approval from the local governing > body, see: https://www.airshare.co.nz/ > > Over private land requires permission from the land owner. > > Inside controlled airspace requires permission from the appropriate ATC > unit (airshare will help with this). > > Operation near airports (within 4km) require NOTAMs to be filed. > > That's the summary from the top of my head, I am happy to be corrected. There's an excellent guide to the rules over on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/7ljcn2/a_guide_to_flying_your_drone_in_new_zealand_caa/ -- Rodger Donaldson rodger at donaldson.gen.nz From tmcbride at twopicode.com.au Sat Jan 19 21:15:19 2019 From: tmcbride at twopicode.com.au (Tim McBride) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 21:15:19 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> Message-ID: The password is on the dashboard page of the linux.conf.au site. On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 21:14, Daryl Tester < dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au> wrote: > Y'all. > > Probably a little early, except I noticed at the Julia Bishop > Hall (what, it's not called that?) is already advertising > the linuxconfau ssid, so has the password been made > available yet? The UCVisitor guest wifi is blocking > some convenient ports, like IMAP ... > > -- > Regards, > Daryl Tester > Handcrafted Computers Pty. Ltd. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From portablejim at jamesmckay.id.au Sat Jan 19 21:46:29 2019 From: portablejim at jamesmckay.id.au (James McKay) Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 23:46:29 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <1547893246.7105.14.camel@samba.org> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <1547893246.7105.14.camel@samba.org> Message-ID: <3b4ad645-c04c-f8b9-183d-4e743d617f4a@jamesmckay.id.au> As for the location on the dashboard - it is sitting next to the "Air New Zealand offer" at the top of the page. On 19/1/19 11:20 pm, Andrew Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 2019-01-19 at 20:44 +1030, Daryl Tester wrote: >> ?Y'all. >> >> ?Probably a little early, except I noticed at the Julia Bishop >> ?Hall (what, it's not called that?) is already advertising >> ?the linuxconfau ssid, so has the password been made >> ?available yet???The UCVisitor guest wifi is blocking >> ?some convenient ports, like IMAP ... > It is available on the dashboard via the conference website. > > (and not to be disclosed on this list, sorry) > > Andrew Bartlett > From me at mith.ro Sun Jan 20 16:01:46 2019 From: me at mith.ro (Tim 'mithro' Ansell) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 18:01:46 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] (Almost) Free FPGA hardware (with open tool support!) Message-ID: *Hi everyone!Here at Linux.conf.au I have a large number of different types of FPGA based hardware that are looking for homes! While the hardware is free (as in beer), I want it to be actually used (rather than sitting on someone's shelf) so there are some requirements you need to meet to get hardware. Read on to find out more!The three types of boards I have to give away are (I have multiple of each); * Hacker FPGA Tomu - for people who want to start getting into FPGA dev and help with Tomu, RISC-V IoT or FuPy. * Digilent Arty A7 - for people who want to help with 32bit Linux on RISC-V and LiteX Linux support. * Digilent Basys 3 - for people who want to help with the SymbiFlow project.More information and the requirements for getting the boards are below! If you get stuck, myself and other contributors to the project will be more than happy to help you. Feel free to join the #timvideos or #tomu channels on irc.freenode.net or find me at the conference.Looking forward to seeing what people will do.Tim 'mithro' Ansell"Hacker" FPGA Tomu Boards---------The first set of boards I have are the hacker Tomu FPGA (?Fomu? for short). At LCA last year everyone got the original Tomu board which was an ARM microcontroller that fit actually inside your USB port (see https://tomu.im ). The Fomu is the same form factor as the original -- it fits inside your USB port -- but replaces the ARM microcontroller with an iCE40 FPGA.The iCE40 FPGA is cool because it has multiple totally open source FPGA toolchains! The FPGA is also big enough to contain a small "IoT class" RISC-V soft CPU with ~128kbytes of RAM + 1Megabyte of XIP SPI flash. This makes it possible to run MicroPython in the board thanks to the FuPy project ! There are two variants of the FPGA Tomu - the production and hacker variants.The production boards are what you will get if you order Fomu boards from the CrowdSupply campaign at https://j.mp/fomu-cs (active for one more week!) and will ship a while after the campaign ends. They have nice features like QSPI, a custom injection molded case, ESD protection and other more advanced features. This version will ship with MicroPython running on the RISC-V soft CPU and a UF2 and DFU compatible bootloader. You will be able to program the board via the web or just dropping a file on a virtual mass storage device without needing any drivers! Thus you can just get started using MicroPython in a similar way to Adafruit's newer CircuitPython boards or treat the board as a RISC-V microcontroller. These are not yet available.The hacker boards are what you can get from me here at Linux.conf.au 2019. These boards have a reduced set of features -- mostly around long term reliability -- to keep the cost down and allow production in small quantities by hobbyists. We will be working on implementing the bootloader and other similar gateware + firmware functionally at Linux.conf.au and want to test the compatibility with a wide range of different hardware. The hacker boards are thus currently unprogrammed and not guaranteed to work but we have bought a programming jig to the conference.I have roughly 250 hacker Tomu FPGA here at the conference. To get a hacker FPGA Tomu(s) you must do one of the following things; (a) Show me that you have successfully completed the "Compiling the Gateware and BIOS " section of the "FuPy on iCE40 Boards " how to (found on litex-buildenv wiki ). (b) Contribute (send a pull request, fix documentation, help people on IRC, write a blog post, packaging) to any of my many projects including like TimVideos , HDMI2USB , LiteX BuildEnv , FuPy , SymbiFlow or directly to anything Tomu related. (c) Help improve support for the Tomu / Fomu (and LiteX related peripherals) in other projects like: * operating systems such as Zephyr, NuttX, RTEMS, ChibiOS or pretty much anything else, * emulation / simulation environments such as QEMU, Renode and Verilator, * tooling like OpenOCD, flashing tools and host drivers, * development environment like nextpnr , Yosys , Verilog to Routing , etc, * bare metal libraries, examples, demos or writing tutorials. Pretty much showing that you will use and support the Tomu / Fomu in some way! (d) Give me $250 USD or $250 AUD to get roughly half a sheet (~24) of Fomu boards. (e) Ask a good question at a talk related to the Tomu FPGA happening here at Linux.conf.au such as; * "Plastic is Forever: Designing Tomu's Injection-Molded Case" talk covering the design process for injection molded cases given by Sean 'xobs' Cross' talk on Wednesday morning. * "SymbiFlow - The next generation FOSS FPGA toolchain " talk covering the new open source toolchain for FPGAs given by myself, Tim 'mithro' Ansell on Thursday morning.Digilent Arty A7---------The Digilent Arty A7 board is a much bigger and high performance Xilinx Series 7 Artix FPGA with features like 256MB DDR memory and 100Mbit Ethernet. This makes it suitable for running full operating systems like Linux. It is the same board that was used last year at the LCA2018 FPGA Miniconf .Due to this hardware being more expensive I am reserving the boards for people who can demonstrate the skills and time to contribute to improving support for the LiteX BuildEnv SoCs in Linux and QEMU. The major areas for improvement are; * Improving the 32bit RISC-V architecture in Linux. * Writing architecture independent Linux device drivers for LiteX parts. * Getting support for our 32bit RISC-V SoCs in QEMU up to a comparable level as the or1k and lm32 versions.To get a Digilent Arty A7 you must do both the following things; * Demonstrate you have successfully gotten up to the "The instructions from here can only be done after you receive hardware" section of the "Linux.conf.au 2018 FPGA Miniconf Set Up Instructions " HowTo on the LiteX BuildEnv . * Demonstrate ability to contribute to (or a history of contributing to) Linux or QEMU development.Digilent Basys 3---------The Digilent Basys 3 board also has a high performance Xilinx Series 7 Artix FPGA but lacks some of the external features required for things like Linux. The reason this board is interesting is that it is currently the first Series 7 board to be supported by the SymbiFlow toolchain , meaning some development for the board can be done using open source tools (without using the vendor tools).Again, due to this hardware being more expensive I am reserving the boards for people who can demonstrate the skills and time to contribute to SymbiFlow and related projects.To get a Digilent Basys 3 you must do one of following things; * Set up the Project X-Ray development environment and send a pull request demonstrating some understanding of the process behind the project. * Set up the SymbiFlow Architecture Definitions environment and send a pull request demonstrating some understanding of the process behind the project.* -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz Sun Jan 20 17:44:45 2019 From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 19:44:45 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <87zhrvlteq.fsf@silverfish.pri> Michael Wheeler writes: > Is there an alternative hand shake? I'm having trouble multiplying large prime numbers in my head. I am not sure it is acceptable conduct to post secret protocol details of the secret handshake here on this mailing list. -- Brian May https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ From dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au Sun Jan 20 17:46:47 2019 From: dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au (Daryl Tester) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 17:16:47 +1030 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Linux Conf Wifi password? In-Reply-To: <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <116083bf-aad1-0215-7ff2-095c50d9fc36@handcraftedcomputers.com.au> On 20/1/19 11:41 am, Michael Wheeler wrote: > Is there an alternative hand shake? I'm having trouble multiplying large prime numbers in my head. That's okay, according to ol' Bill we'll have a way of factoring large primes soon enough. From peter at serwylo.com Sun Jan 20 17:58:06 2019 From: peter at serwylo.com (Peter Serwylo) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 17:58:06 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule In-Reply-To: <47f2d18a-4fcf-3b2b-3946-b0454fa5c2a5@codewiz.org> References: <47f2d18a-4fcf-3b2b-3946-b0454fa5c2a5@codewiz.org> Message-ID: There is an Android conference schedule viewer called Giggity (available via F-Droid and the Play Store). Does what you'd expect: search the schedule, ask for reminders about specific talks, calendar view, list view, etc. It currently has LCA 2018 built into it, and I've submitted a pull request for 2019. While we wait for the PR to be accepted, you can add a new schedule by scanning a QR code with the relevant metadata, which I've uploaded here: https://github.com/pserwylo/giggity/issues/2 That is a gzip JSON blob with the metadata from the LCA2019 pull request (includes the schedule, lat/lon of each lecture theatre, and a link to the wiki, online schedule, etc). Cheers, pete. On 19/1/19 8:59 pm, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > I get a single page PDF when printing from Chrome 71.0.3578.98. > > On 18/01/2019 11.49, Chris Packham wrote: >> Hmm Firefox makes a complete mess of printing it but Chromium does a >> decent job (still 3 pages instead of 1 but I can live with that). >> >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:05 PM Tim McBride >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> The schedule page seems quite printer-friendly (fits on one page, >>> looks nice), though you'd need to print each day separately. >>> >>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/ >>> >>> >>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Chris Packham >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Is there a way to get a printable schedule? >>>> >>>> In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. I >>>> can't remember if they worked last year. >>>> >>>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ >>>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > From mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com Sun Jan 20 18:02:20 2019 From: mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com (Matt Cengia) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 02:02:20 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule In-Reply-To: References: <47f2d18a-4fcf-3b2b-3946-b0454fa5c2a5@codewiz.org> Message-ID: Nice one Peter, I was thinking about doing this the other day, but it slipped my mind! On Sun, Jan 20, 2019, at 17:59, Peter Serwylo wrote: > There is an Android conference schedule viewer called Giggity (available > via F-Droid and the Play Store). Does what you'd expect: search the > schedule, ask for reminders about specific talks, calendar view, list > view, etc. > > It currently has LCA 2018 built into it, and I've submitted a pull > request for 2019. While we wait for the PR to be accepted, you can add a > new schedule by scanning a QR code with the relevant metadata, which > I've uploaded here: > > https://github.com/pserwylo/giggity/issues/2 > > That is a gzip JSON blob with the metadata from the LCA2019 pull request > (includes the schedule, lat/lon of each lecture theatre, and a link to > the wiki, online schedule, etc). > > Cheers, > > pete. > > On 19/1/19 8:59 pm, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > I get a single page PDF when printing from Chrome 71.0.3578.98. > > > > On 18/01/2019 11.49, Chris Packham wrote: > >> Hmm Firefox makes a complete mess of printing it but Chromium does a > >> decent job (still 3 pages instead of 1 but I can live with that). > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:05 PM Tim McBride > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> The schedule page seems quite printer-friendly (fits on one page, > >>> looks nice), though you'd need to print each day separately. > >>> > >>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/ > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Chris Packham > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Is there a way to get a printable schedule? > >>>> > >>>> In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. I > >>>> can't remember if they worked last year. > >>>> > >>>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ > >>>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ > >>>> -- > >>>> Chat mailing list > >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Regards, Matt Cengia From irving at irving-st.id.au Sun Jan 20 18:06:55 2019 From: irving at irving-st.id.au (Irving Tjiptowarsono) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:06:55 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] complete printable schedule In-Reply-To: References: <47f2d18a-4fcf-3b2b-3946-b0454fa5c2a5@codewiz.org> Message-ID: Heya, The 2019 schedule is there in giggity. I dont think it shows up by default though. I remember clicking on the one for 2018 and it pulls down the 2019 schedule, probably because the calendar link stays the same? Cheers, Irving On Sun., 20 Jan. 2019, 20:02 Matt Cengia Nice one Peter, > > I was thinking about doing this the other day, but it slipped my mind! > > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019, at 17:59, Peter Serwylo wrote: > > There is an Android conference schedule viewer called Giggity (available > > via F-Droid and the Play Store). Does what you'd expect: search the > > schedule, ask for reminders about specific talks, calendar view, list > > view, etc. > > > > It currently has LCA 2018 built into it, and I've submitted a pull > > request for 2019. While we wait for the PR to be accepted, you can add a > > new schedule by scanning a QR code with the relevant metadata, which > > I've uploaded here: > > > > https://github.com/pserwylo/giggity/issues/2 > > > > That is a gzip JSON blob with the metadata from the LCA2019 pull request > > (includes the schedule, lat/lon of each lecture theatre, and a link to > > the wiki, online schedule, etc). > > > > Cheers, > > > > pete. > > > > On 19/1/19 8:59 pm, Bernie Innocenti wrote: > > > I get a single page PDF when printing from Chrome 71.0.3578.98. > > > > > > On 18/01/2019 11.49, Chris Packham wrote: > > >> Hmm Firefox makes a complete mess of printing it but Chromium does a > > >> decent job (still 3 pages instead of 1 but I can live with that). > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:05 PM Tim McBride > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> The schedule page seems quite printer-friendly (fits on one page, > > >>> looks nice), though you'd need to print each day separately. > > >>> > > >>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/ > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 13:03, Chris Packham > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Is there a way to get a printable schedule? > > >>>> > > >>>> In Hobart the following URLs were able to provide this information. > I > > >>>> can't remember if they worked last year. > > >>>> > > >>>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/general-sessions/ > > >>>> https://linux.conf.au/schedule/miniconfs/ > > >>>> -- > > >>>> Chat mailing list > > >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > > > > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From saiudayshankar at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 20:11:25 2019 From: saiudayshankar at gmail.com (Uday) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 20:11:25 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Melbourne airport Message-ID: From Melbourne tonight, I will be at the Irish bar inside the airport. Cheers Uday -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saiudayshankar at gmail.com Sun Jan 20 21:04:21 2019 From: saiudayshankar at gmail.com (Uday) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 21:04:21 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Melbourne airport In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Two johns taphouse instead as I could not figure out the Irish bar On Sun., 20 Jan. 2019, 8:11 pm Uday From Melbourne tonight, I will be at the Irish bar inside the airport. > > Cheers > Uday > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <13ff9c954f43ca94b7d6fa484d1035f8@jimmy.nz> Hi all For anyone interested, the local robotics club is having their monthly meeting on Monday 21st at 6:30 pm. It is at 5 Idris Rd which is about a 2km, ~30min walk from the venue. http://kiwibots.org is their site. Jimmy From family at whall.nz Sun Jan 20 22:29:17 2019 From: family at whall.nz (Brent & Megan) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 00:29:17 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] HDMI cable and USB keyboard: help please! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <552da204-6204-3d94-3bf6-5a58d55b9fc0@whall.nz> I have both, if no one else replies closer than 9 km away. Would have to organise meeting point outside if building is locked. Brent Miniconf coordinator On 20/01/19 23:26, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > Do you have an HDMI cable and/or USB keyboard that I could borrow for > tonight? > > We're having some last-minute difficulty with some Raspberry Pi > networking config required for tomorrow morning. Being able to just > plug the Pi into a TV in one of the common rooms would save a lot of > stuffing around, but we don't have those particular items. > > Please let me know if you can help :-) > > We're currently in the level 2 common room of the TO building at > Bishop Julius. Have feet, can travel to collect. > > Thanks! > > Jon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at oxer.com.au Sun Jan 20 22:33:24 2019 From: jon at oxer.com.au (Jonathan Oxer) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 22:33:24 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] HDMI cable and USB keyboard: help please! In-Reply-To: <552da204-6204-3d94-3bf6-5a58d55b9fc0@whall.nz> References: <552da204-6204-3d94-3bf6-5a58d55b9fc0@whall.nz> Message-ID: Thanks Brent, That's very generous to offer help at this time of night! We're working on an alternative solution now, so it's not worth going to a lot of trouble to come out late at night with them. Cheers :-) Jon On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 at 22:29, Brent & Megan wrote: > I have both, if no one else replies closer than 9 km away. > > Would have to organise meeting point outside if building is locked. > > Brent > Miniconf coordinator > > On 20/01/19 23:26, Jonathan Oxer wrote: > > Do you have an HDMI cable and/or USB keyboard that I could borrow for > tonight? > > We're having some last-minute difficulty with some Raspberry Pi networking > config required for tomorrow morning. Being able to just plug the Pi into a > TV in one of the common rooms would save a lot of stuffing around, but we > don't have those particular items. > > Please let me know if you can help :-) > > We're currently in the level 2 common room of the TO building at Bishop > Julius. Have feet, can travel to collect. > > Thanks! > > Jon > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From president at linux.org.au Mon Jan 21 04:35:04 2019 From: president at linux.org.au (Linux Australia President) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 06:35:04 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [Linux-aus] Agenda for Linux Australia Annual General Meeting 21st January 2019 1730hrs (NZDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi everyone, A courtesy reminder that the Linux Australia AGM is on tonight at 5.30pm in the main lecture hall, C1. The Annual Report, which is tabled for endorsement, is available online at; https://linux.org.au/about-us/annual-reports/ The Zoom meeting can be joined at; https://zoom.us/j/9523970925 Kind regards, Kathy On 22/12/18 1:38 am, Linux Australia Secretary via linux-aus wrote: > Dear all, > > Pursuant to Clause (24) of the LinuxAustralia?Constitution [1], I > hereby give notice that the Annual General Meeting of the organisation > will be held on 21st January 2019 at linux.conf.au > ?University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New > Zealand. > > The meeting will: > > * > > confirm the minutes of the last preceding Annual General Meeting > (to be forthcoming when the Agenda?is advised) and of any Special > General Meeting held since that meeting (nil SGM held), > > * > > receive from the Council reports on the activities of the > association during the last preceding financial year > > * > > elect office-bearers of the association and ordinary committee > members, or to announce the results of a ballot held prior to the > Annual General Meeting under clause 15(5) - see [2] > > * > > receive and consider any financial statement or report required to > be submitted to members under the Act > > Please find below the draft agenda for the AGM. I would like to > specifically point out the proposed changes to the Constitution. The > pull request to this change is linked in the agenda below. Voting for > these changes will be via the new website?s voting module and a link > to this will be announced shortly. > > Please advise me at secretary[at]linux.org.au > ?asap if you wish to be marked as an apology or > if there are agenda items you wish to have tabled. > > Don?t forget that nominations for the 2019 Council is currently open! > > Kind Regards, > > Sae Ra > > -- Sae Ra Germaine Secretary Linux Australia secretary at linux.org.au > http://linux.org.au > Linux Australia Inc GPO Box 4788 Sydney NSW > 2001 Australia ABN 56 987 117 479 > -- > > > Agenda of Linux Australia - Annual General Meeting 2019 > > University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand > > Monday 21st ?January 2019, 1730hrs (NZDT) in ?Lecture Theatre ,C1. > > Zoom Facilities will also be available announcement coming. > > > 1. President?s welcome > > MS KATHY REID, President > > To note: attendees should fill in attendance slip for an accurate > record in the minutes > > > 2. Approval of the minutes from the previous - Annual General > Meeting 2018 > > MOTION by MS KATHY REID that the minutes of the Annual General Meeting > 2018 of Linux Australia be accepted as complete and accurate. The > minutes are available > at:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Js5EzY4KCd_jHohwYw6gBmI6h8YWcYolmVEPaYzwDAs/edit?usp=sharing > To > be seconded and voted upon > > > 3. To receive the REPORTS of activities of the preceding year from > OFFICE BEARERS > > * > > MS KATHY REID - President > > * > > MR RUSSELL STUART - TreasurerIncludes presentation of the > Auditor?s Report > > * > > MS SAE RA GERMAINE - Secretary > > Please refer to the Annual Report > > MOTION by {TBA} that the Auditor?s Report is a true statement of > financial accounts > > MOTION by {TBA} that the President?s report is correct > > MOTION by {TBA} that the Secretary?s report is correct > > MOTION by {TBA} that the Treasurer?s report is correct > > MOTION by {TBA} that the actions of Council during 2018 are endorsed > by the membership > > To be seconded and voted upon > > > 4. To CONSIDER items tabled in the call for agenda items > > * > > Amendments to the Constitution: > > o > > The Council recommends changes to the Constitution in the > following areas > > o > > https://github.com/linuxaustralia/constitution_and_policies/commit/9c215f83037e6e2193f9bcf83fb70747e56a5a71 > > > o > > Voting for this Constitutional change will be available via > the website shortly > > > 5. DECLARATION of Election and WELCOME of incoming Council by the > Returning Officer > > > 6. NOMINATION and ELECTION of Members to Vacant Council Positions > > > > 7. To HEAR and RESPOND to questions from the floor > > > _______________________________________________ > linux-aus mailing list > linux-aus at lists.linux.org.au > http://lists.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/linux-aus > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to > linux-aus-unsubscribe at lists.linux.org.au -- Kathy Reid President Linux Australia 0418 130 636 president at linux.org.au http://linux.org.au Linux Australia Inc GPO Box 4788 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia ABN 56 987 117 479 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From madduck at madduck.net Mon Jan 21 07:02:34 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:02:34 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Duplicate entries in the ICS file Message-ID: <20190120200234.GA29393@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Folks, The ICS file contains a number of duplicate entries. See for instance this screenshot: https://matrix.madduck.net/_matrix/media/v1/download/madduck.net/LzxrfAxmNNviuNZKlzWOCUfF e.g. UIDs 224 at 2019.linux.conf.au and 252 at 2019.linux.conf.au ? The first has LOCATION:C2, and the second has no location. Why is this? Could someone please fix this? -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net darwinism is nothing without enough dead bodies. spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If there was, > I'd totally do that thing. > > Kthxbye, > Michael > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dns at dns.id.au Mon Jan 21 07:22:50 2019 From: dns at dns.id.au (Daniel Sobey) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 07:22:50 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Exploding Kittens BOF Message-ID: Hello List, I have Exploding kittens in my bag. Find me during Morning Tea, Lunch or Dinner and lets play a game or two. https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Exploding_Kittens_BOF Regards, Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sellis at redhat.com Mon Jan 21 07:31:31 2019 From: sellis at redhat.com (Steven Ellis) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 09:31:31 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Fwd: online chat In-Reply-To: References: <87h8e7nb2a.fsf@silverfish.pri> <87ef9bnapp.fsf@silverfish.pri> <47b95afb-f758-8c21-b4e0-adefb3f81581@nerdvana.org.au> <20190117182750.GB8681@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: If I'm in riot "help register" doesn't provoke a response. any tips Steven Ellis On Sat, 19 Jan 2019, 10:01 Martin Kealey > Start a private chat with user *nickserv* on host *chat.freenode.net > *, however Matrix encodes that. > > Therein say *help register* and follow the instructions given. > > > On Fri., 18 Jan. 2019, 20:53 Ian Williamson wrote: > >> Hi Martin >> >> I'm still getting kicked for needreggednick >> >> What do I need to do? >> >> start a chat with @_linux.conf.au_NickServ:matrix.org >> or @linux.conf.au_NickServ:matrix.org or @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org >> >> and say in the chat "register " >> ? >> >> Regards >> Ian (3ccles) >> >> >> On Fri, 18 Jan 2019 at 07:28, martin f krafft >> wrote: >> >>> also sprach Tim Serong [2019-01-17 18:12 +1300]: >>> >TL;DR: >>> > >>> >- Chat to @freenode_NickServ:matrix.org to register / identify >>> > >>> >- Chat to @appservice-irc to store the password for later use (I wonder >>> >where it's stored and how secure it is in this case?) >>> >>> Thanks, I've updated >>> https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Chat_%26_discussions#Join_the_conference_channel_.23linux.conf.au:matrix.org >>> >>> -- >>> @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net >>> >>> weapon, n.: >>> an index of the lack of development of a culture. >>> >>> spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And there'll likely be a BoF about decentralisation, covering Matrix, among other things (if interest would have it): https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/DecentralisationBoF Looking forward to this week, -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net for four-fifths of our history, our planet was populated by pond scum. -- j.w. schopf spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: digital_signature_gpg.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1118 bytes Desc: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) URL: From jason at dickson.st Mon Jan 21 08:45:35 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 10:45:35 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Interest in H/W and at loose end on Monday morning? In-Reply-To: (sfid-20190113_131710_972714_0709CD4A) References: <6gfo0y-s8xy4mn35u81-k7rxu4-qopwf4-jidzjb3ecl15jwwfatqnlar7-hu2pi0-c7atd-k5mjyd-te89fz48dpc9-bz3akqdtphpp-3dffmfzhkm413bvjsc-irc4dd-ipcyy2nulgf7-rff3a2ngcryd.1547255080771@email.android.com> <19588656.J3cJimUy4A@rata> (sfid-20190113_131710_972714_0709CD4A) Message-ID: <6C58574E-4FBF-4D46-AD57-8C9C5A955986@dickson.st> Where do you plan to do this? Anyone still keen? Jason > On 13 Jan 2019, at 2:38 pm, Tomas Maggio wrote: > > I'm in. > > > Tomas > -- > Sent from my phone > > >> On January 13, 2019 12:59:19 AM GMT+13:00, Paul Campbell wrote: >> I give these away as kits to kids here in Dunedin ~$5 a piece in >> quantity - >> I'll come and talk too >> >> Paul >> >>> On Saturday, 12 January 2019 4:13:27 PM NZDT Jason Lewis wrote: >>> Hi Mike, >>> >>> I also have a bunch of these and would be happy to join you to have a >> play >>> and discussion >>> >>> Jason >>> >>>> On 12 Jan 2019, at 12:27 pm, "hamster at snap.net.nz" >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If anybody is at a loose end while the car build is in progress, I >> can >>>> bring in my collection of excess ESP32 development boards (dual >> core, >>>> WiFi, Bluetooth...) for people to play with, as an informal >> gathering >>>> outside of LCA. >>>> >>>> Either set up the ESP-IDF 'C' SDK and play with the demos, or I can >> flash >>>> some of them with micropython. >>>> >>>> Don't expect anything too technical - just getting an LED to blink, >> 'hello >>>> world' on the serial console. and maybe getting the WiFi to work. >>>> >>>> I've got about a dozen boards in my stash, but not enough microUSB >> cables >>>> so you will need your own. You could convince me to part with a >> board for >>>> $20. >>>> >>>> Reply all or email me if interest, or can suggest a place to do >> this. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mike >> >> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From xrobau at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 09:28:04 2019 From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 08:28:04 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lockpicking BoF in C1 at lunch today (12:30 Monday) Message-ID: I've brought a bunch of training locks, and they are available to be played with over lunch. If you brought any of your own lockpicks, come and liase with me and we'll sort them out. I'm down in the front row of C1, wearing the 'JUST DO GIT' shirt. 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Enjoy the day! -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ From mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com Mon Jan 21 10:47:50 2019 From: mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com (Matt Cengia) Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2019 18:47:50 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup Message-ID: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> Hi folks, Has anybody found an effective way to set up their RPi Zero yet, in the absence of a male micro-USB to female USB A connector, and a mini-HDMI adaptor (or HDMI-capable screen)? I've dropped Raspbian full onto my microSD card, followed this guide to set up networking, enable SSH, and have set a unique hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, and then booted the device. SSHing to or is unsuccessful. It's possible that inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or that I've done something wrong. Interested in others' experiences. 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URL: From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 21 10:57:37 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 12:57:37 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Sysadmin Miniconf lightning talks In-Reply-To: <6b4f84f7-9f4a-d497-dc3b-1e4dc544762a@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> References: <02254501-32b7-0607-96ad-c7c837e8a3da@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> <6b4f84f7-9f4a-d497-dc3b-1e4dc544762a@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> Message-ID: <4d231b7c-5eee-dd3f-4a95-a28e85be8a7b@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 20/01/19 1:28 PM, Ewen McNeill wrote: > Due to our last minute cancellation, the Sysadmin Miniconf has space for > lightning talks (5-10 minutes) on Monday between 1:50pm and 2:10pm. We now have three lightning talks (2 * 5 minute, 1 * 10 minute) to fill in this slot in the Sysadmin Miniconf. Details on the Sysadmin Miniconf programme: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/programme19.html Thanks to everyone who volunteered to speak at the last minute. Ewen PS: Slides for all Sysadmin Miniconf talks so far are also linked from the programme (URL above) now. From stephen at networkplumber.org Mon Jan 21 12:11:50 2019 From: stephen at networkplumber.org (Stephen Hemminger) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:11:50 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] HDMI cable and USB keyboard: help please! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20190121141150.434ac953@shemminger-XPS-13-9360> On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 21:26:54 +1100 Jonathan Oxer wrote: > Do you have an HDMI cable and/or USB keyboard that I could borrow for > tonight? > > We're having some last-minute difficulty with some Raspberry Pi networking > config required for tomorrow morning. Being able to just plug the Pi into a > TV in one of the common rooms would save a lot of stuffing around, but we > don't have those particular items. > > Please let me know if you can help :-) > > We're currently in the level 2 common room of the TO building at Bishop > Julius. Have feet, can travel to collect. > > Thanks! > > Jon I brought a USB keyboard, but forgot the HDMI cable. Need to get my Pi setup, any one else have a cable. From jason at dickson.st Mon Jan 21 12:29:52 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 14:29:52 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> (sfid-20190121_104833_771164_2611FF1A) References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> (sfid-20190121_104833_771164_2611FF1A) Message-ID: <576F641E-36DE-4708-B9AE-685892BC17B1@dickson.st> I?m going to slightly hijack your thread (apologies) by asking: Why is this so difficult on the RPi when the problem was solved so elegantly on the Beagle Bone Black? On the BBB you simply plug the USB port into your computer and it acts as a NIC, then you can ssh into the BBB why has the RPi never taken this approach? > On 21 Jan 2019, at 12:47 pm, Matt Cengia wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Has anybody found an effective way to set up their RPi Zero yet, in the absence of a male micro-USB to female USB A connector, and a mini-HDMI adaptor (or HDMI-capable screen)? > > I've dropped Raspbian full onto my microSD card, followed this guide to set up networking, enable SSH, and have set a unique hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, and then booted the device. > > SSHing to or is unsuccessful. It's possible that inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or that I've done something wrong. > > Interested in others' experiences. No big deal, though. > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Peter.Chubb at data61.csiro.au Mon Jan 21 12:37:18 2019 From: Peter.Chubb at data61.csiro.au (Peter.Chubb at data61.csiro.au) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 01:37:18 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <576F641E-36DE-4708-B9AE-685892BC17B1@dickson.st> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <576F641E-36DE-4708-B9AE-685892BC17B1@dickson.st> Message-ID: <841s56ssdu.wl-Peter.Chubb@data61.csiro.au> >>>>> "Jason" == Jason Lewis writes: Jason> Why is this so difficult on the RPi when the problem was solved Jason> so elegantly on the Beagle Bone Black? On the BBB you simply Jason> plug the USB port into your computer and it acts as a NIC, then Jason> you can ssh into the BBB You can almost certainly configure it to do this, using the cdc-acm driver. But I'd prefer a serial port, so I can just set up wifi. -- Dr Peter Chubb Tel: +61 2 9490 5852 http://ts.data61.csiro.au/ Trustworthy Systems Group Data61, CSIRO (formerly NICTA) From modarn at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 13:43:07 2019 From: modarn at gmail.com (Modar Modar) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:43:07 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lost item Message-ID: Hey everyone If you found a Baily Nelson sunglasses case ( with sunglaases in ) could you please drop it off at the registration desk lost and found ! Thanks Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I would like to >> specifically point out the proposed changes to the Constitution. The >> pull request to this change is linked in the agenda below. Voting for >> these changes will be via the new website?s voting module and a link >> to this will be announced shortly. >> >> Please advise me at secretary[at]linux.org.au >> ?asap if you wish to be marked as an apology or >> if there are agenda items you wish to have tabled. >> >> Don?t forget that nominations for the 2019 Council is currently open! >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Sae Ra >> >> -- Sae Ra Germaine Secretary Linux Australia secretary at linux.org.au >> http://linux.org.au >> Linux Australia Inc GPO Box 4788 Sydney NSW >> 2001 Australia ABN 56 987 117 479 >> -- >> >> >> Agenda of Linux Australia - Annual General Meeting 2019 >> >> University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand >> >> Monday 21st ?January 2019, 1730hrs (NZDT) in ?Lecture Theatre ,C1. >> >> Zoom Facilities will also be available announcement coming. >> >> >> 1. President?s welcome >> >> MS KATHY REID, President >> >> To note: attendees should fill in attendance slip for an accurate >> record in the minutes >> >> >> 2. Approval of the minutes from the previous - Annual General >> Meeting 2018 >> >> MOTION by MS KATHY REID that the minutes of the Annual General >> Meeting 2018 of Linux Australia be accepted as complete and accurate. >> The minutes are available >> at:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Js5EzY4KCd_jHohwYw6gBmI6h8YWcYolmVEPaYzwDAs/edit?usp=sharing >> To >> be seconded and voted upon >> >> >> 3. To receive the REPORTS of activities of the preceding year >> from OFFICE BEARERS >> >> * >> >> MS KATHY REID - President >> >> * >> >> MR RUSSELL STUART - TreasurerIncludes presentation of the >> Auditor?s Report >> >> * >> >> MS SAE RA GERMAINE - Secretary >> >> Please refer to the Annual Report >> >> MOTION by {TBA} that the Auditor?s Report is a true statement of >> financial accounts >> >> MOTION by {TBA} that the President?s report is correct >> >> MOTION by {TBA} that the Secretary?s report is correct >> >> MOTION by {TBA} that the Treasurer?s report is correct >> >> MOTION by {TBA} that the actions of Council during 2018 are endorsed >> by the membership >> >> To be seconded and voted upon >> >> >> 4. 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Note that you may first want to talk to @appservice-irc:matrix.org and choose a nickname. A good convention is to append [m] to your regular nickname, e.g. for me, that would be: !nick madduck[m] ?) https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/718 -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself. -- mark twain spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: digital_signature_gpg.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1118 bytes Desc: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) URL: From introcept at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 14:21:27 2019 From: introcept at gmail.com (Tom Pope) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:21:27 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Does anyone have a torx t2 screwdriver i can borrow? Message-ID: Hi everyone, My laptop has just died and I'm looking for a t2 torx screwdriver to remove the back panel to access the battery. Before i go off and buy one, is there anybody that happens to have one i can borrow for a few hours? Thanks :) -Tom -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ryan.verner at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 14:23:13 2019 From: ryan.verner at gmail.com (Ryan Verner) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:23:13 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Careful with Slides with low contrast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey all, this was a dynamic contrast setting issue with the projectors in C1 - this was resolved with Uni AV early this afternoon, so should no longer be an issue. On Mon., 21 Jan. 2019, 16:05 Simon Lyall If you are speaking be careful if you slides have low contrast. Eg Dlue on > a black background. The projectors may have a lower contrast than a normal > screen. > > See attached image. The text and text box is easily viable on the screen > to the right, but the projected image to the left is really hard to see > (and this is after the lights were turned down). > > Simon. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon at darkmere.gen.nz Mon Jan 21 14:30:16 2019 From: simon at darkmere.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:30:16 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Careful with Slides with low contrast In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Miniconfs: Beta Testing Linux.conf.au since 2002 :) Thank you for fixing it so quickly. On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, Ryan Verner wrote: > Hey all, this was a dynamic contrast setting issue with the projectors in C1 - this was resolved with Uni AV early this afternoon, so should no longer be an issue. > > On Mon., 21 Jan. 2019, 16:05 Simon Lyall If you are speaking be careful if you slides have low contrast. Eg Dlue on > a black background. The projectors may have a lower contrast than a normal > screen. > > See attached image. The text and text box is easily viable on the screen > to the right, but the projected image to the left is really hard to see > (and this is after the lights were turned down). > > Simon. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > From xrobau at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 14:39:55 2019 From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:39:55 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] USB keyboard and HDMI cable (again!) Message-ID: I've realised that, after all the OTHER discussions, I'm also in need of borrowing a HDMI cable and briefly a USB keyboard to connect the retropie to the wireless network. Can anyone spare some for gaming tonight? --Rob (@xrobau or X-Rob or exten 31337) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cherieellisnz at gmail.com Mon Jan 21 15:04:02 2019 From: cherieellisnz at gmail.com (Cherie Ellis) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:04:02 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Calling Michael Still Message-ID: Can Michael please contact rego desk or Eila this afternoon? Cherie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[0] for those interested that was via a bonnet with serial access. > On 21 Jan 2019, at 12:47 pm, Matt Cengia wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Has anybody found an effective way to set up their RPi Zero yet, in the absence of a male micro-USB to female USB A connector, and a mini-HDMI adaptor (or HDMI-capable screen)? > > I've dropped Raspbian full onto my microSD card, followed this guide to set up networking, enable SSH, and have set a unique hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, and then booted the device. > > SSHing to or is unsuccessful. It's possible that inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or that I've done something wrong. > > Interested in others' experiences. No big deal, though. > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rcook at pcug.org.au Mon Jan 21 15:20:50 2019 From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:20:50 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: I do this with all my RPi-0s; http://members.iinet.net.au/~owen.cook/RPi/RPi-0.html YMMV but it works for me. -- Owen On 2019-01-21 10:47, Matt Cengia wrote: > Hi folks, > > Has anybody found an effective way to set up their RPi Zero yet, in > the absence of a male micro-USB to female USB A connector, and a > mini-HDMI adaptor (or HDMI-capable screen)? > > I've dropped Raspbian full [1] onto my microSD card, followed this > guide [2] to set up networking, enable SSH, and have set a unique > hostname in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, and then booted the device. > > SSHing to or is unsuccessful. It's > possible that inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or > that I've done something wrong. > > Interested in others' experiences. No big deal, though. > > -- > > Regards, > > Matt Cengia > > > > Links: > ------ > [1] > http://ucmirror.canterbury.ac.nz/linux/raspbian/2018-11-13-raspbian-stretch-full.zip > [2] > https://medium.com/@DavidMaitland/raspberry-pi-zero-headless-setup-92fb72daf88d -- Owen From rcook at pcug.org.au Mon Jan 21 15:25:47 2019 From: rcook at pcug.org.au (Owen) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:25:47 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Fancy a spot of cricket? In-Reply-To: <1a1f7a24-eabb-d8f9-bf9e-84fa72c6d737@lca2019.org> References: <1a1f7a24-eabb-d8f9-bf9e-84fa72c6d737@lca2019.org> Message-ID: <16234beea80966c5858b76d827e1f7a5@pcug.org.au> On 2019-01-21 10:08, Steven Sykes wrote: > Hello wonderful people! > > It's such a nice day outside, so we've set up a cricket set on the C > block lawn. Feel free to have a play as you see fit, or even organise > a cricket BoF. > > Enjoy the day! Ah, just saw this so its a bit late, could have come and practised my under arm bowling :-) -- Owen From stephen at networkplumber.org Mon Jan 21 15:43:20 2019 From: stephen at networkplumber.org (Stephen Hemminger) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:43:20 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <4CD4CC3C-D948-4BEA-9FB0-F0BABEFD12F1@the-davies.net> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <4CD4CC3C-D948-4BEA-9FB0-F0BABEFD12F1@the-davies.net> Message-ID: I got an adapter and cable at jaycar will put it at rego desk if anyone else needs it On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 5:14 PM Michael Davies So I?ve done this thing successfully, without said guide. I likewise > haven?t been able to connect to a hostname.local address (although it does > work ?on device? it doesn?t work from the same conference network segment). > Still debugging it... > > Through another way[0] I?ve got serial access, so I can ssh in to an up > address successfully. But that?s going to be less useful to others. > > [0] for those interested that was via a bonnet with serial access. > > On 21 Jan 2019, at 12:47 pm, Matt Cengia > wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Has anybody found an effective way to set up their RPi Zero yet, in the > absence of a male micro-USB to female USB A connector, and a mini-HDMI > adaptor (or HDMI-capable screen)? > > I've dropped Raspbian full > > onto my microSD card, followed this guide > > to set up networking, enable SSH, and have set a unique hostname in > /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, and then booted the device. > > SSHing to or is unsuccessful. It's possible > that inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or that I've done > something wrong. > > Interested in others' experiences. No big deal, though. > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tim at deviousgeek.com Mon Jan 21 15:50:31 2019 From: tim at deviousgeek.com (Tim McBride) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 17:50:31 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <4CD4CC3C-D948-4BEA-9FB0-F0BABEFD12F1@the-davies.net> Message-ID: I have a USB keyboard available. 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(Petabytes Data Migration and Load > Balancing with Football+MARS). > > Thomas should arrive by Monday evening and would like to give his > presentation anyway, so we have created a BoF on *Tuesday* lunchtime in > C1 (same room as Sysadmin Miniconf on Monday) on Large Data Storage: > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/LargeDataStorage Come along tomorrow (Tuesday) lunch time, same room (C1) for Thomas's rescheduled talk: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/presentations19.html#ThomasSchoebelTheuer (about 20 minutes; abstract also repeated below), and any Storage related discussion! Thomas has arrived at LCA2019, after *much* travel. All the slides for the Sysadmin Miniconf are now online, linked from: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/programme19.html Thanks to all our speakers at the Sysadmin Miniconf today, including the last minute lightning talk speakers who helped provide us with extra content for our travel-delay-induced gaps. And special thanks to Simon Lyall who both helped with running the Sysadmin Miniconf today *and* also spoke as well (including substantially rewriting his talk in the last 24 hours!). Lots of good content in the talk; slides: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/2019/lca2019-simon_lyall-promethesis_for_both_big_and_little_people.pdf Ewen PS: Abstract for Thomas's talk, at the start of the Data Storage BoF (12:30) -=- cut here -=- Petabytes Data Migration and Load Balancing with Football+MARS - Thomas Schoebel-Theuer MARS is used at 1&1 IONOS for hardware lifecycle and load balancing of a few thousands of stateful LXC containers, in addition to its traditional long-distance data replication capabilities through network bottlenecks. The talk explains some background, the Football toolset, and discusses experiences gained from a major migration project to newer hardware, increasing density, thus saving power costs of some millions of ? per year, while improving customer performance. About Thomas Schoebel-Theuer: Dr. Thomas Sch?bel-Theuer is the inventor of the Dentry Cache of the Linux Kernel. He has also implemented some research Operating System. Currently he is working on long-distance data replication of some petabytes. -=- cut here -=- From ross at drummond.co.nz Mon Jan 21 17:56:46 2019 From: ross at drummond.co.nz (Ross Drummond) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:56:46 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Announce; Gentoo Users BoF Message-ID: <72c6508429691afc3ea09c3fcb5d2f66@snap.net.nz> When: Tuesday at afternoon tea break Where: Under a tree on the lawn out side C Block foyer. Details on the Wiki. Cheers Ross Drummond -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From: Chat [mailto:chat-bounces at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au] On Behalf Of Rob Thomas Sent: Monday, 21 January 2019 11:28 AM To: Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Lockpicking BoF in C1 at lunch today (12:30 Monday) I've brought a bunch of training locks, and they are available to be played with over lunch. If you brought any of your own lockpicks, come and liase with me and we'll sort them out. I'm down in the front row of C1, wearing the 'JUST DO GIT' shirt. I'll also throw the 'LCA Plays Pokemon' stream up on the projector, if anyone wants to play that while we're messing with training locks 8) --Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greguu at null.net Mon Jan 21 22:07:23 2019 From: greguu at null.net (Greg) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 00:07:23 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Does anyone have a torx t2 screwdriver i can borrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tom, Yes you can. Just get in touch. Cheers, Greg On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 16:21 Tom Pope Hi everyone, > > My laptop has just died and I'm looking for a t2 torx screwdriver to > remove the back panel to access the battery. Before i go off and buy one, > is there anybody that happens to have one i can borrow for a few hours? > > Thanks :) > > -Tom > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mibus at mibus.org Tue Jan 22 04:57:41 2019 From: mibus at mibus.org (Robert Mibus) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 06:57:41 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Bisop Julius Hall - Common area In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's next to the laundry, not far from reception. (Sort-of the opposite direction from where breakfast is, but a bit further from the road). On Mon., 21 Jan. 2019, 21:26 Simon Lyall According to the Docs there is a Peter Ballantyne Room somewhere. Anybody > know where this is? > > It might have a pool table according to the photos > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.carter at taitradio.com Tue Jan 22 05:40:15 2019 From: john.carter at taitradio.com (John Carter) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 07:40:15 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Audio from videos Re: Careful with Slides with low contrast Message-ID: And if you're attempting to get an Apple Mac to produce audio via proprietary Apple audio connector at a Linux conf... .. pain and embarrassment will ensue. On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, 16:30 Simon Lyall > Miniconfs: Beta Testing Linux.conf.au since 2002 > > :) > > Thank you for fixing it so quickly. > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, Ryan Verner wrote: > > Hey all, this was a dynamic contrast setting issue with the projectors > in C1 - this was resolved with Uni AV early this afternoon, so should no > longer be an issue. > > > > On Mon., 21 Jan. 2019, 16:05 Simon Lyall > If you are speaking be careful if you slides have low contrast. Eg > Dlue on > > a black background. The projectors may have a lower contrast than > a normal > > screen. > > > > See attached image. The text and text box is easily viable on the > screen > > to the right, but the projected image to the left is really hard > to see > > (and this is after the lights were turned down). > > > > Simon. > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, at 07:40, John Carter wrote: > And if you're attempting to get an Apple Mac to produce audio via proprietary Apple audio connector at a Linux conf... > > .. pain and embarrassment will ensue. > > On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, 16:30 Simon Lyall > >> Miniconfs: Beta TestingLinux.conf.au since 2002 >> >> :) >> >> Thank you for fixing it so quickly. >> >> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019, Ryan Verner wrote: >> > Hey all, this was a dynamic contrast setting issue with the projectors in C1 - this was resolved with Uni AV early this afternoon, so should no longer be an issue. >> > >> > On Mon., 21 Jan. 2019, 16:05 Simon Lyall > > If you are speaking be careful if you slides have low contrast. Eg Dlue on >> > a black background. The projectors may have a lower contrast than a normal >> > screen. >> > >> > See attached image. The text and text box is easily viable on the screen >> > to the right, but the projected image to the left is really hard to see >> > (and this is after the lights were turned down). >> > >> > Simon. >> > -- >> > Chat mailing list >> > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > >> > >> > >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > This Communication is Confidential. We only send and receive email on the > basis of the terms set out at www.taitradio.com/email_disclaimer > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david.lord at uq.net.au Tue Jan 22 07:53:33 2019 From: david.lord at uq.net.au (David Lord) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 20:53:33 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Conference schedule in .ics format Message-ID: <7E2B5991-2ED0-4285-96CA-9BAA5650A510@uqconnect.edu.au> As this isn?t super visible on the wiki - the conference schedule can be imported to your favourite calendar application: https://lca2019.linux.org.au/schedule/conference.ics -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From saiudayshankar at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 08:19:24 2019 From: saiudayshankar at gmail.com (Uday) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 08:19:24 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Conference schedule in .ics format In-Reply-To: <7E2B5991-2ED0-4285-96CA-9BAA5650A510@uqconnect.edu.au> References: <7E2B5991-2ED0-4285-96CA-9BAA5650A510@uqconnect.edu.au> Message-ID: David, You've just saved my day. Phew! Cheers Uday On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 07:53, David Lord wrote: > As this isn?t super visible on the wiki - the conference schedule * can* be > imported to your favourite calendar application: > > https://lca2019.linux.org.au/schedule/conference.ics > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dns at dns.id.au Tue Jan 22 08:40:10 2019 From: dns at dns.id.au (Daniel Sobey) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 10:40:10 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Conference schedule in .ics format In-Reply-To: References: <7E2B5991-2ED0-4285-96CA-9BAA5650A510@uqconnect.edu.au> Message-ID: If you want an android app I would recommend Giggity as an open source application to view the conference schedule. Available from f-droid and the play store https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.gaast.giggity/ https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.gaast.giggity On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 10:19 AM Uday wrote: > David, > > You've just saved my day. Phew! > > > Cheers > Uday > > > On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 at 07:53, David Lord wrote: > >> As this isn?t super visible on the wiki - the conference schedule * can* be >> imported to your favourite calendar application: >> >> https://lca2019.linux.org.au/schedule/conference.ics >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clinton.roy at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 10:56:09 2019 From: clinton.roy at gmail.com (Clinton Roy) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 10:56:09 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Hacker Public Radio recordings Message-ID: Hello everyone, One of the things I do is record shows for hacker public radio, an open source friendly community run podcast, shows are CC licenced, available from hackerpublicradio.org This year I'll set up my microphone upstairs of the registration desk, next to the swag desk. I'm open to talking to people about anything related to the conference, talks they're seeing, or giving, aspects of the conference you find interesting. I'm particularly keen to talk to people who are attending for the first time. cheers, -- Clinton Roy Senior Scientific Software Engineer Australian Synchrotron From jwoithe at atrad.com.au Tue Jan 22 09:51:06 2019 From: jwoithe at atrad.com.au (Jonathan Woithe) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 09:21:06 +1030 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Thunderbird, dovecot and imap Message-ID: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> Hi all I have a thunderbird user whose laptop periodically decides to download all their mailboxes in full for no apparent reasons. Only the one user sees this, and it happens roughly once or twice a fortnight. There is no obvious trigger. Thunderbird uses imap to communicate with the mail server, and the imap server is dovecot. I would be really interested to talk to anyone who might have some idea as to why this might be, or things I could check. Regards jonathan From paul at sydney.edu.au Tue Jan 22 10:03:39 2019 From: paul at sydney.edu.au (Paul McInerney) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:03:39 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Thunderbird, dovecot and imap In-Reply-To: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> References: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: Hi Jonathan Have a look under their account settings for the particular IMAP account, and look what they have set for 'Message Synchronising' under 'Synchronisation & Storage'.? Do they have 'Keep messages in all folders for this account on this computer' selected ? There is an 'Advanced' option to allow you to select which folders are downloaded in full. (I'm using Thunderbird 60.2.1 running on Ubuntu connecting to a dovecot IMAP service) Cheers Paul On 22/1/19 9:51 am, Jonathan Woithe wrote: > Hi all > > I have a thunderbird user whose laptop periodically decides to download all > their mailboxes in full for no apparent reasons. Only the one user sees > this, and it happens roughly once or twice a fortnight. There is no obvious > trigger. > > Thunderbird uses imap to communicate with the mail server, and the imap > server is dovecot. > > I would be really interested to talk to anyone who might have some idea as > to why this might be, or things I could check. > > Regards > jonathan -- Paul McInerney, Manager, Systems and Engineering School of Medical Sciences Faculty of Medicine and Health THE UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY Rm N255 - Anderson Stuart Building - F13 Eastern Avenue, NSW 2006 Australia P: +61 2 9351 5159 M: +61 411 288 030 E: paul at sydney.edu.au Vice-President, ITPA https://www.itpa.org.au Member, Pride Network http://sydney.edu.au/pride-network From trent at lloyd.id.au Tue Jan 22 10:05:34 2019 From: trent at lloyd.id.au (Trent Lloyd) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:05:34 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Thunderbird, dovecot and imap In-Reply-To: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> References: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: <6077D4F5-A497-4C28-B00A-8D07D1BF40F4@lloyd.id.au> We can talk about this! Try me on Twitter @lathiat or Freenode IRC - Trent > On 22 Jan 2019, at 11:51 am, Jonathan Woithe wrote: > > Hi all > > I have a thunderbird user whose laptop periodically decides to download all > their mailboxes in full for no apparent reasons. Only the one user sees > this, and it happens roughly once or twice a fortnight. There is no obvious > trigger. > > Thunderbird uses imap to communicate with the mail server, and the imap > server is dovecot. > > I would be really interested to talk to anyone who might have some idea as > to why this might be, or things I could check. > > Regards > jonathan > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From jason at dickson.st Tue Jan 22 10:07:20 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:07:20 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Thunderbird, dovecot and imap In-Reply-To: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> References: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> Message-ID: maybe you could get some IMAP logging out of Thunderbird, and that would give you more clues as to why its happening? https://wiki.mozilla.org/MailNews:Logging Jason On 22/1/19 11:51 am, Jonathan Woithe wrote: > Hi all > > I have a thunderbird user whose laptop periodically decides to download all > their mailboxes in full for no apparent reasons. Only the one user sees > this, and it happens roughly once or twice a fortnight. There is no obvious > trigger. > > Thunderbird uses imap to communicate with the mail server, and the imap > server is dovecot. > > I would be really interested to talk to anyone who might have some idea as > to why this might be, or things I could check. > > Regards > jonathan From dns at dns.id.au Tue Jan 22 10:27:37 2019 From: dns at dns.id.au (Daniel Sobey) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:27:37 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] possible BOF session, storing genders in databases Message-ID: Hello List, The project i'm involved in is musicbrainz.org as an editor. Musicbrainz is a database of Artists, Releases and recordings etc. The data is openly licensed and there is a public api. One thing that has come up in our community is we currently have 4 options for gender: Male, Female, Other, and Not Applicable. Members of our community have pointed that is not enough options so we are discussing what to do next. If people have advice on what other groups and organisations are doing and if there is someone that we can look to as a reference. I would like to meet up with people for Lunch, dinner or for $BEVERAGE over the next few days. Please email me off list, ping me on twitte @nerdsniping or sip extension 43092 If there is interest I'd like to organise a bof sesion during lunch on Friday. Regards, Daniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertc at robertcollins.net Tue Jan 22 11:29:00 2019 From: robertc at robertcollins.net (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 13:29:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] possible BOF session, storing genders in databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Do you actually want / need gender? Perhaps a pronoun.is link would be sufficient, and intrinsically extendible. Rob On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 12:28 Daniel Sobey Hello List, > > The project i'm involved in is musicbrainz.org as an editor. > Musicbrainz is a database of Artists, Releases and recordings etc. > The data is openly licensed and there is a public api. > > One thing that has come up in our community is we currently have 4 options > for gender: Male, Female, Other, and Not Applicable. > Members of our community have pointed that is not enough options so we are > discussing what to do next. > If people have advice on what other groups and organisations are doing and > if there is someone that we can look to as a reference. > > I would like to meet up with people for Lunch, dinner or for $BEVERAGE > over the next few days. > Please email me off list, ping me on twitte @nerdsniping or sip extension > 43092 > If there is interest I'd like to organise a bof sesion during lunch on > Friday. > > Regards, > > Daniel > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kstewart at linuxfoundation.org Tue Jan 22 12:06:17 2019 From: kstewart at linuxfoundation.org (Kate Stewart) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 19:06:17 -0600 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] possible BOF session, storing genders in databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Daniel, Robert, I've seen seen projects use pronouns, but current best practices I'm aware of from CHAOSS metrics group have been documented at: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-diversity-inclusion/blob/master/demographic-data/gender-identity.md Hope this helps. Kate On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 6:29 PM Robert Collins wrote: > Do you actually want / need gender? Perhaps a pronoun.is link would be > sufficient, and intrinsically extendible. > > Rob > > On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 12:28 Daniel Sobey >> Hello List, >> >> The project i'm involved in is musicbrainz.org as an editor. >> Musicbrainz is a database of Artists, Releases and recordings etc. >> The data is openly licensed and there is a public api. >> >> One thing that has come up in our community is we currently have 4 >> options for gender: Male, Female, Other, and Not Applicable. >> Members of our community have pointed that is not enough options so we >> are discussing what to do next. >> If people have advice on what other groups and organisations are doing >> and if there is someone that we can look to as a reference. >> >> I would like to meet up with people for Lunch, dinner or for $BEVERAGE >> over the next few days. >> Please email me off list, ping me on twitte @nerdsniping or sip extension >> 43092 >> If there is interest I'd like to organise a bof sesion during lunch on >> Friday. >> >> Regards, >> >> Daniel >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Kate Stewart Sr. Director of Strategic Programs, The Linux Foundation Mobile: +1.512.657.3669 Email / Google Talk: kstewart at linuxfoundation.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From madduck at madduck.net Tue Jan 22 12:07:00 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:07:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Recycling of coffee cups and paper plates Message-ID: <20190122010700.GA5413@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Dear conferencers, While it's great to see that the single-use cups and plates available during the tea breaks are "100% compostable", this does not apply to Christchurch, where composting isn't as "industrial" as these materials require. So please, don't use them if possible. Please use your swag coffee mugs even for water and juice, and reuse plates. And if you have to use these single-use containers, once you're done with them, please put them into landfill, not recycling or organics. If you have any questions, go see Sarah Bell at rego desk, or myself. Best, -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net "the only difference between the saint and the sinner is that every saint has a past and every sinner has a future." -- oscar wilde spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: digital_signature_gpg.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1118 bytes Desc: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) URL: From madduck at madduck.net Tue Jan 22 12:07:14 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:07:14 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Resources from my "Fighting Web Trackers" talk Message-ID: <20190122010714.GB5413@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Dear conferencers, Thanks to those who attended (or will watch the video about) my talk on fighting Web trackers, and reducing your footprint while browsing the Web. Here are the browser extensions I introduced, so that you can check them out at your leisure. I am using Firefox, but most of these should be available for Chrome as well. Most importantly, however, these are all maintained and Free, so you can consider this list as bootstrapping your due diligence towards a more private browsing experience. Please let me know if you have any comments or additions. 1. https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix, comprehensive resource/sub-request blocker, which eclipses your standard ad-blocker, and can do a whole lot more. By the author of uBlock Origin (https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock), but more bare bones. 2. https://decentraleyes.org/, serve commonly used Web 2.0 fabric (e.g. jQuery) from localhost to avoid pinging 3rd parties/CDNs helpfully hosting that stuff.? 3. https://github.com/Cookie-AutoDelete/Cookie-AutoDelete/, flexible white-/greylisting, and removes cookies on blacklist after a configurable amount of time. 4. https://github.com/kkapsner/CanvasBlocker/, fuzz two commonly used fingerprinting methods to make it harder for the remote to profile you. 5. https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere, ensure you don't leak plain text information to snoops on your way. 6. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/random_user_agent/, https://leotindall.com/randomua/ and https://github.com/ray-lothian/UserAgent-Switcher, three extensions I'm to spoof and fuzz your user-agent. I haven't quite made up my mind as to which one is best, yet. 7. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/block-service-workers/, dis-allows those potentially long-running threads that can persist way beyond your web site visit from registering. Complements uMatrix's control of Web Workers. 8. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/, Handy means to control Firefox's built-in containers, which isolate your browsing of certain data-hungry websites from the rest of your activity. 9. https://github.com/mozilla/lightbeam-we, visualise 3rd party requests. 10. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Network_Monitor, An introduction to using the network monitor to trace what your browser is doing on the wire. 11. https://browserleaks.com/, a frigthening collection of fingerprinting methods you can use to track your progress. 12. https://panopticlick.eff.org/, EFF's anti-tracking checker. Finally, Ben asked the question what to use for the less technically-inclined. EFF's privacy badger (https://www.eff.org/privacybadger) uses machine-learning to figure out whom you trust, and while I personally want more control and transparency of what's going on, this "privacy-by-default" approach is great for people who don't want to configure anything. Privacy Possum (https://github.com/cowlicks/privacypossum) is a an attempt to improve on that by someone who worked on PrivacyBadger. Stay safe, keep private, Martin Footnote: ?) There are people who use transparent proxies for this, but SSL makes that harder and harder. So what about the browser cache. It's true that your browser should be able to just indefinitely cache these immutable resources. However, I don't trust that, nor the companies to set the expiry headers correctly, and apart, I believe that caching really only prevents re-transfer, but still pings the HTTP host to find out what the current timestamp/eTag is. For instance, I picked a random static piece of content from about:cache: https://assets-cdn.github.com/favicon.ico, which is set to expire a year from now. When I load it, there's a genuine connection with Github.com/Fastly, including Referer and User-Agent and several other bits about me that the other side could use to correlate their requests: >Host: assets-cdn.github.com >User-Agent: browza >Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8 >Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5 >Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br >Cookie: logged_in=no >Connection: keep-alive >Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1 >Referer: https://github.com >If-Modified-Since: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:00:00 GMT >Cache-Control: max-age=0 From simon at darkmere.gen.nz Tue Jan 22 12:36:33 2019 From: simon at darkmere.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:36:33 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Badges and NZ Events Message-ID: Just a quick plug for a couple of my projects 1. I'm looking to get photos of Interesting stuff people have done with their badges this year. If you did some cute emoji or character hack or event just went for the "simple is better" I'm after a photo. Happy for any samples or recomendations. Here is the ones from 2017: https://www.flickr.com/photos/simonlyall/sets/72157677530378701/with/31491672504/ If you send me a photo, please do it under CC-by or something more liberal (and let me know what license). Or just tap me on the shoulder and I can photograph it myself 2. I'm involved with a website promoting New Zealand "Geek" events. We define Geek broadly. Looking for events to promote, readers or people to help out. https://goto.geek.nz or @gotogeeknz on Twitter From jason at dickson.st Tue Jan 22 12:36:59 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:36:59 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Family BoF Message-ID: I'm wondering if anyone who's here with their kids would like to catch up for some social thing with their families? My wife and I were thinking perhaps we could have an early evening picnic at the Margret Mahy playground on Wednesday evening (I know this clashes with the PDNS and the UPDNS) Apparently it's a great place for the kids https://www.ccc.govt.nz/news-and-events/running-an-event/central-city-event-venues-map/margaret-mahy-playground/ open to other suggestions for times or places Jason From speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org Tue Jan 22 12:41:22 2019 From: speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org (Eila Gendig) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:41:22 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Family BoF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Suggesting you stop at the new Central Library ?Turanga? on the way to Margaret Mahy! They have a cool open-access LEGO play area :) > On 22/01/2019, at 2:36 PM, Jason Lewis wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone who's here with their kids would like to catch > up for some social thing with their families? > > My wife and I were thinking perhaps we could have an early evening > picnic at the Margret Mahy playground on Wednesday evening (I know this > clashes with the PDNS and the UPDNS) > > Apparently it's a great place for the kids > > https://www.ccc.govt.nz/news-and-events/running-an-event/central-city-event-venues-map/margaret-mahy-playground/ > > open to other suggestions for times or places > > > Jason > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From adam at adamharvey.name Tue Jan 22 12:49:21 2019 From: adam at adamharvey.name (Adam Harvey) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 14:49:21 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Unprofessional Delegates Networking Session (is not happening) Message-ID: Good morning* freedom lovers! The Unprofessional Delegates Networking Session organisers are pleased to announce that there will not be an UnPDNS this year. Wait, not pleased. The other one. Basically, the venues that would be viable on campus are closed for the holidays, and Christchurch City Council instituted new rules in December that would expect unreasonable levels of professionalism from us to run an event in a park like we normally do.** We are very sorry for this lapse in unprofessionalism, and hope to look at the mantle again next year, kind of shrug, and maybe organise something in the least professional way possible. Yours, Adam and Chris * $TZ may vary. ** Well, without being arrested, anyway, and we're too pretty for jail. From dns at nerdsniping.net Tue Jan 22 13:05:59 2019 From: dns at nerdsniping.net (Daniel Sobey) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:05:59 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Keysigning BOF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E18692E-52E0-4565-B0EE-82117539DABB@nerdsniping.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hello list, Just a friendly reminder that the keysigning BOF is scheduled for Wednesday Lunch in room C2. Please submit your key to http://biglumber.com/x/web?keyring=3153 tonight. I will be asking nicely if I can get a printed copies of the list. Hope to see you tomorrow. 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Please excuse my brevity. From jwoithe at atrad.com.au Tue Jan 22 13:09:16 2019 From: jwoithe at atrad.com.au (Jonathan Woithe) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:39:16 +1030 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Thunderbird, dovecot and imap In-Reply-To: <6077D4F5-A497-4C28-B00A-8D07D1BF40F4@lloyd.id.au> References: <20190121225105.GB1265@marvin.atrad.com.au> <6077D4F5-A497-4C28-B00A-8D07D1BF40F4@lloyd.id.au> Message-ID: <20190122020916.GC1779@marvin.atrad.com.au> Hi Trent On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:05:34PM +1300, Trent Lloyd wrote: > We can talk about this! Try me on Twitter @lathiat or Freenode IRC Keen to catch up. Not on twitter. Which irc channel (or private msg)? jonathan From tserong at suse.com Tue Jan 22 14:24:43 2019 From: tserong at suse.com (Tim Serong) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 16:24:43 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Jobs BoF 2019 Message-ID: <775f18f9-fa6a-beed-cdff-d0994f1ebd0e@suse.com> Hi All, As is tradition, there's a Jobs BoF at LCA 2019, scheduled in the Wednesday afternoon tea break (15:10?15:50), in room A1. If you're a potential employer, please add yourself to the wiki page at https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Jobs_BoF. Job seekers are likewise welcome to add their details to that wiki page, but do bear in mind that it's a *public* wiki, so don't if don't want to. Then, come down to the BoF where employers give a quick spiel, job seekers likewise if they're comfy doing so, and hopefully some nice matchmaking ensues. Cheers, Tim -- Tim Serong Senior Clustering Engineer SUSE tserong at suse.com From kathy at kathyreid.id.au Tue Jan 22 14:34:07 2019 From: kathy at kathyreid.id.au (Kathy Reid) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 16:34:07 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Jobs BoF 2019 In-Reply-To: <775f18f9-fa6a-beed-cdff-d0994f1ebd0e@suse.com> References: <775f18f9-fa6a-beed-cdff-d0994f1ebd0e@suse.com> Message-ID: If you have job vacancies, you may *also* want to post them to the Linux Australia Jobs Board on the schmicko new LA website; https://linux.org.au/jobs On 22/1/19 4:24 pm, Tim Serong wrote: > Hi All, > > As is tradition, there's a Jobs BoF at LCA 2019, scheduled in the > Wednesday afternoon tea break (15:10?15:50), in room A1. > > If you're a potential employer, please add yourself to the wiki page at > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Jobs_BoF. Job seekers are likewise > welcome to add their details to that wiki page, but do bear in mind that > it's a *public* wiki, so don't if don't want to. Then, come down to the > BoF where employers give a quick spiel, job seekers likewise if they're > comfy doing so, and hopefully some nice matchmaking ensues. > > Cheers, > > Tim From mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com Tue Jan 22 14:42:23 2019 From: mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com (Matt Cengia) Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 22:42:23 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] possible BOF session, storing genders in databases In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: See also: http://cczona.com/speaking/talks/#schemas-for-the-real-world On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, at 14:06, Kate Stewart wrote: > Hi Daniel, Robert, > I've seen seen projects use pronouns, but current best practices I'm aware of from CHAOSS metrics group have been documented at: https://github.com/chaoss/wg-diversity-inclusion/blob/master/demographic-data/gender-identity.md > > Hope this helps. > Kate > > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019 at 6:29 PM Robert Collins wrote: >> Do you actually want / need gender? Perhaps a pronoun.is link would be sufficient, and intrinsically extendible. >> >> Rob >> >> On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 12:28 Daniel Sobey >> Hello List, >>> >>> The project i'm involved in is musicbrainz.org as an editor. >>> Musicbrainz is a database of Artists, Releases and recordings etc. >>> The data is openly licensed and there is a public api. >>> >>> One thing that has come up in our community is we currently have 4 options for gender: Male, Female, Other, and Not Applicable. >>> Members of our community have pointed that is not enough options so we are discussing what to do next. >>> If people have advice on what other groups and organisations are doing and if there is someone that we can look to as a reference. >>> >>> I would like to meet up with people for Lunch, dinner or for $BEVERAGE over the next few days. >>> Please email me off list, ping me on twitte @nerdsniping or sip extension 43092 >>> If there is interest I'd like to organise a bof sesion during lunch on Friday. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Daniel >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > -- > Kate Stewart > Sr. Director of Strategic Programs, The Linux Foundation > Mobile: +1.512.657.3669 > Email / Google Talk: kstewart at linuxfoundation.org > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The cricket set will be there every day this week for everyone to enjoy :) From greguu at null.net Tue Jan 22 15:39:49 2019 From: greguu at null.net (Greg) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:39:49 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Does anyone have a torx t2 screwdriver i can borrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Tom, let me know if you still need the tool. I got with me today but was able to locate you. Cheers, Greg On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 00:07 Greg Hi Tom, > > Yes you can. Just get in touch. > > Cheers, > > Greg > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 16:21 Tom Pope >> Hi everyone, >> >> My laptop has just died and I'm looking for a t2 torx screwdriver to >> remove the back panel to access the battery. Before i go off and buy one, >> is there anybody that happens to have one i can borrow for a few hours? >> >> Thanks :) >> >> -Tom >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From introcept at gmail.com Tue Jan 22 15:51:58 2019 From: introcept at gmail.com (Tom Pope) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:51:58 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Does anyone have a torx t2 screwdriver i can borrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Greg, Thanks for the offer :) I've already managed to get my hands on one and was unable to repair. Looks like it's going to be warranty job... Thanks, -Tom Pope On Tue, 22 Jan. 2019, 5:40 pm Greg Hi Tom, > > let me know if you still need the tool. I got with me today but was able > to locate you. > > Cheers, > > Greg > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 00:07 Greg >> Hi Tom, >> >> Yes you can. Just get in touch. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Greg >> >> On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, 16:21 Tom Pope > >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> My laptop has just died and I'm looking for a t2 torx screwdriver to >>> remove the back panel to access the battery. Before i go off and buy one, >>> is there anybody that happens to have one i can borrow for a few hours? >>> >>> Thanks :) >>> >>> -Tom >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertc at robertcollins.net Tue Jan 22 17:22:29 2019 From: robertc at robertcollins.net (Robert Collins) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 19:22:29 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Family BoF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Margaret Mahy Park is amazing. One block south is a BMX/ scooter play track that looks amazing. There are BBQ cookers at the East North corner of the playground. We're probably not going, both due to being local, and getting Cynthia to bed (we're 30m drive out of town), but I fully endorse the suggestion! Rob On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 14:37 Jason Lewis I'm wondering if anyone who's here with their kids would like to catch > up for some social thing with their families? > > My wife and I were thinking perhaps we could have an early evening > picnic at the Margret Mahy playground on Wednesday evening (I know this > clashes with the PDNS and the UPDNS) > > Apparently it's a great place for the kids > > > https://www.ccc.govt.nz/news-and-events/running-an-event/central-city-event-venues-map/margaret-mahy-playground/ > > open to other suggestions for times or places > > > Jason > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hamster at snap.net.nz Tue Jan 22 20:34:31 2019 From: hamster at snap.net.nz (Mike Field) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 22:34:31 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Correction to Thursday Program. Message-ID: <2d3ee4ef-c197-53ea-fa70-c31251cdbe40@snap.net.nz> Hi, The schedule for Thursday (https://linux.conf.au/schedule/?schedule=main-thursday) has the Penguin dinner from 8:30pm to 11pm, but the Wiki have return buses leaving the event to returning to UoC from 8:30pm. I think the time on the schedule might need tweaking! Cheers Mike From wes at sol1.com.au Tue Jan 22 21:55:36 2019 From: wes at sol1.com.au (Wes Cilldhaire) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 21:55:36 +1100 (AEDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: <725168856.949579.1548154536679.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> I used this[0] method to get a serial console on it, then used a normal usb-a to micro-usb cable plugged in to my laptop. It sets up a usb serial gadget driver on the pi which presents to the host as a cdc_acm serial device then runs a getty on it. From there I could configure networking easily, etc - though I haven't tried to connect to it via network on the conf wifi yet only my motel's wifi. Cheers, Wes [0] http://www.tal.org/tutorials/raspberry-pi-zero-usb-serial-console ----- On 21 Jan, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Matt Cengia mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com wrote: > Hi folks, > > Has anybody found an effective way to set up their RPi Zero yet, in the absence > of a male micro-USB to female USB A connector, and a mini-HDMI adaptor (or > HDMI-capable screen)? > > I've dropped [ > http://ucmirror.canterbury.ac.nz/linux/raspbian/2018-11-13-raspbian-stretch-full.zip > | Raspbian full ] onto my microSD card, followed [ > https://medium.com/@DavidMaitland/raspberry-pi-zero-headless-setup-92fb72daf88d > | this guide ] to set up networking, enable SSH, and have set a unique hostname > in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, and then booted the device. > > SSHing to or is unsuccessful. It's possible that > inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or that I've done something > wrong. > > Interested in others' experiences. No big deal, though. > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat (null) From duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au Tue Jan 22 21:58:39 2019 From: duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au (duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 21:58:39 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Slackware build available for tomorrow's Ftrace presentation Message-ID: <6e90925ecba81bf20092ea8ded909879b5377a4e@webmail.optusnet.com.au> Hi, For anyone else running Slackware and going to "See what your computer is doing with Ftrace utilities" tomorrow, if you haven't already built the software then I can offer you a SlackBuild for it. The gui ran OK after "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib64/kshark" (maybe needs an entry in /etc/profile.d). Contact me off-list if interested, Cheers ... 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URL: From sprinkmeier at fastmail.com Wed Jan 23 06:03:00 2019 From: sprinkmeier at fastmail.com (Thomas Sprinkmeier) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 08:03:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] ftrace prep Message-ID: <20190123080300.70096ce7@denovo> Hi any/all, If you're not going to the ftrace prep then please return to your regularly scheduled programming .... now. https://linux.conf.au/schedule/presentation/130/ I added a few minor tweaks to get it to (mostly) build on my system (debian 9.6): 0 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ git diff diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile index f0f7e92..a5db6e8 100644 --- a/Makefile +++ b/Makefile @@ -204,6 +204,9 @@ CFLAGS ?= -g -Wall CPPFLAGS ?= LDFLAGS ?= +# TS +CFLAGS += -fPIC + export CFLAGS export INCLUDES diff --git a/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt b/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt index 9460026..8a807a6 100644 --- a/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt +++ b/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt @@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ endif (Qt5Widgets_FOUND) set(LIBRARY_OUTPUT_PATH "${KS_DIR}/lib") set(EXECUTABLE_OUTPUT_PATH "${KS_DIR}/bin") -set(CMAKE_C_FLAGS "${CMAKE_C_FLAGS} -Wall -g -pthread") -set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} -Wall -g -std=c++11 -pthread") +set(CMAKE_C_FLAGS "${CMAKE_C_FLAGS} -Wall -g -pthread -fPIC") +set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} -Wall -g -std=c++11 -pthread -fPIC") if (NOT _DEBUG) diff --git a/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c b/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c index 5033e47..585d415 100644 --- a/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c +++ b/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c @@ -692,8 +692,8 @@ static size_t get_records(struct kshark_context *kshark_ctx, struct rec_list *temp_rec; size_t count, total = 0; int n_cpus; - int pid; - int cpu; + int pid = -1; + int cpu = -1; n_cpus = tracecmd_cpus(kshark_ctx->handle); cpu_list = calloc(n_cpus, sizeof(*cpu_list)); 0 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ I now get as far as 0 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ make gui make[1]: '/home/sprinkmeier/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd/lib/traceevent/libtraceevent.a' is up to date. make[1]: '/home/sprinkmeier/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd/lib/trace-cmd/libtracecmd.a' is up to date. NO_PYTHON forced: swig not installed, not compiling python plugins [ 25%] Built target kshark [ 37%] Built target sched_events [ 50%] Built target missed_events [ 58%] Built target dhisto [ 66%] Built target dfilter [ 75%] Built target dload [ 79%] Linking CXX executable ../../bin/dplot /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkshark-plot collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status examples/CMakeFiles/dplot.dir/build.make:94: recipe for target '../bin/dplot' failed make[3]: *** [../bin/dplot] Error 1 CMakeFiles/Makefile2:357: recipe for target 'examples/CMakeFiles/dplot.dir/all' failed make[2]: *** [examples/CMakeFiles/dplot.dir/all] Error 2 Makefile:127: recipe for target 'all' failed make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 Makefile:263: recipe for target 'gui' failed make: *** [gui] Error 2 2 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ My first reaction is "this is an IQ test to see if you're worthy to attend, and I FAILED!" my second reaction is "It's a GUI, how important can it be???" I assume reality lies somewhere in between these extremes. If someone can point me in the direction of the nearest convenient reality I'd appreciate it. Thomas From duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au Wed Jan 23 07:37:13 2019 From: duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au (duncan_roe at optusnet.com.au) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:37:13 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] ftrace prep Message-ID: <19c1679a89651d9d08bded8a465f54e586d768f8@webmail.optusnet.com.au> Hi Thomas, On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 08:03:00AM +1300, Thomas Sprinkmeier wrote: > Hi any/all, > > If you're not going to the ftrace prep then please return to your > regularly scheduled programming .... now. > > https://linux.conf.au/schedule/presentation/130/ > > I added a few minor tweaks to get it to (mostly) build on my system > (debian 9.6): > > > 0 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ git diff > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile > index f0f7e92..a5db6e8 100644 > --- a/Makefile > +++ b/Makefile > @@ -204,6 +204,9 @@ CFLAGS ?= -g -Wall >? CPPFLAGS ?= >? LDFLAGS ?= >? > +# TS > +CFLAGS?? += -fPIC > + >? export CFLAGS >? export INCLUDES >? > diff --git a/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt b/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt > index 9460026..8a807a6 100644 > --- a/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt > +++ b/kernel-shark/CMakeLists.txt > @@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ endif (Qt5Widgets_FOUND) >? set(LIBRARY_OUTPUT_PATH??? "${KS_DIR}/lib") >? set(EXECUTABLE_OUTPUT_PATH "${KS_DIR}/bin") >? > -set(CMAKE_C_FLAGS?? "${CMAKE_C_FLAGS} -Wall -g -pthread") > -set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} -Wall -g -std=c++11 -pthread") > +set(CMAKE_C_FLAGS?? "${CMAKE_C_FLAGS} -Wall -g -pthread -fPIC") > +set(CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS "${CMAKE_CXX_FLAGS} -Wall -g -std=c++11 -pthread > -fPIC") >? if (NOT _DEBUG) >? > diff --git a/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c b/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c > index 5033e47..585d415 100644 > --- a/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c > +++ b/kernel-shark/src/libkshark.c > @@ -692,8 +692,8 @@ static size_t get_records(struct kshark_context > *kshark_ctx, struct rec_list *temp_rec; >???????? size_t count, total = 0; >???????? int n_cpus; > -?????? int pid; > -?????? int cpu; > +?????? int pid = -1; > +?????? int cpu = -1; >? >???????? n_cpus = tracecmd_cpus(kshark_ctx->handle); >???????? cpu_list = calloc(n_cpus, sizeof(*cpu_list)); > 0 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ > > > > > I now get as far as > > > > 0 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ make gui > make[1]: > '/home/sprinkmeier/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd/lib/traceevent/libtraceevent.a' > is up to date. make[1]: > '/home/sprinkmeier/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd/lib/trace-cmd/libtracecmd.a' > is up to date. > >???? NO_PYTHON forced: swig not installed, not compiling python plugins > > [ 25%] Built target kshark > [ 37%] Built target sched_events > [ 50%] Built target missed_events > [ 58%] Built target dhisto > [ 66%] Built target dfilter > [ 75%] Built target dload > [ 79%] Linking CXX executable ../../bin/dplot > /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lkshark-plot > collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status > examples/CMakeFiles/dplot.dir/build.make:94: recipe for target > '../bin/dplot' failed make[3]: *** [../bin/dplot] Error 1 > CMakeFiles/Makefile2:357: recipe for target > 'examples/CMakeFiles/dplot.dir/all' failed make[2]: *** > [examples/CMakeFiles/dplot.dir/all] Error 2 Makefile:127: recipe for > target 'all' failed make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 > Makefile:263: recipe for target 'gui' failed > make: *** [gui] Error 2 > 2 0 sprinkmeier at denovo:~/GIT/LCA2019/trace-cmd$ > > > > > My first reaction is > "this is an IQ test to see if you're worthy to attend, and I FAILED!" > my second reaction is > "It's a GUI, how important can it be???" > > > I assume reality lies somewhere in between these extremes. > If someone can point me in the direction of the nearest convenient > reality I'd appreciate it. > > > Thomas > It built for me with just this patch (I ignored the warnings - thanks for those patches): > --- a/Makefile > +++ b/Makefile > @@ -200,7 +200,7 @@ INCLUDES += -I$(obj)/tracecmd/include >? include $(src)/features.mk >? >? # Set compile option CFLAGS if not set elsewhere > -CFLAGS ?= -g -Wall > +CFLAGS ?= -g -Wall -fPIC >? CPPFLAGS ?= >? LDFLAGS ?= >? (last line has trlg space) But ... I have swig installed. It's not mentioned as a dependency in kernel-shark/README but it seems to be one. I would install swig and try again. Good luck, Cheers ... Duncan ------------------------- Email sent using Optus Webmail -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dns at dns.id.au Wed Jan 23 08:13:40 2019 From: dns at dns.id.au (Daniel Sobey) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:13:40 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] UPDNS Message-ID: Hello List, In the spirit of being unprofessional and unorganised lets try and organise a UPDNS tonight. We are planning on cooking a barbeque at Bishop Julius Hall tonight after the main conference at the following address. 90 Waimairi Road Upper Riccarton Christchurch 8041 NEW ZEALAND. 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Steven Ellis TECHNICAL PORTFOLIO EVANGELIST - APAC On Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 16:25 Tim Serong Hi All, > > As is tradition, there's a Jobs BoF at LCA 2019, scheduled in the > Wednesday afternoon tea break (15:10?15:50), in room A1. > > If you're a potential employer, please add yourself to the wiki page at > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Jobs_BoF. Job seekers are likewise > welcome to add their details to that wiki page, but do bear in mind that > it's a *public* wiki, so don't if don't want to. Then, come down to the > BoF where employers give a quick spiel, job seekers likewise if they're > comfy doing so, and hopefully some nice matchmaking ensues. > > Cheers, > > Tim > -- > Tim Serong > Senior Clustering Engineer > SUSE > tserong at suse.com > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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To run a bof all you need to do is add something to the wiki and send an email to the list and work out a time and place to meet. * Lunchtime (1230), C1: OpenPOWER BoFbe * Lunchtime (1230), C2: Keysigning BoF * Afternoon Tea (3:10) A1: Jobs BoF -- Paul McInerney, Manager, Systems and Engineering School of Medical Sciences Faculty of Medicine and Health THE UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY Rm N255 - Anderson Stuart Building - F13 Eastern Avenue, NSW 2006 Australia P: +61 2 9351 5159 M: +61 411 288 030 E: paul at sydney.edu.au Vice-President, ITPA https://www.itpa.org.au Member, Pride Network http://sydney.edu.au/pride-network -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com Wed Jan 23 09:56:39 2019 From: mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com (Matt Cengia) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:56:39 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pride BoF plan? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi again all, and sorry for the delay! I have *just* noticed that there's a plan on the wiki (https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Pride_Bof#Lunchtime_Wednesday_Meet_Up) to meet at the C block entrance for lunch, but this doesn't appear to have been announced elsewhere. People may want to get in on this; I'm not sure yet if I'll make it So I've updated the wiki page to also include an afternoon tea meetup today, with the possibility of more meetups tomorrow. See the page for details! On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, at 12:53, Matt Cengia wrote: > Hi folks, > > The Pride BoF is listed on the wiki , and the page was created by Paul.mcinerney . There are no current concrete plans, and, in the absence of any other contacted details, I'm wondering if the organiser wants any help making this happen. I'm a previous organiser of these BoFs and don't want to step on any toes, but also don't want it to suffer from the bystander effect or people being unable to find time to coordinate it. > > Feel free to email me or shoot me a message via Matrix/IRC or Twitter. I'm @mattcen on both. > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xrobau at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 11:27:32 2019 From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:27:32 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Flower Bonnet Docs Message-ID: I was lucky enough to snap up one of the few Flower Bonnets that were left over, and being that I wasn't in the course, I have no idea of the GPIO mappings. Does anyone have the docs/examples that they can share? --Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We would love to find out what people are doing with Tomu boards! We have seen people do cool things like hiding data in the LED blinking and running a Commodore 64 emulator . We would also like to find out what people want to do with the boards and can't yet do so! Hopefully we can find ways to improve Tomu and the Tomu ecosystem in the future to enable your applications. Both myself and Sean will have various forms of the original Tomu and the new Fomu hardware at the BoF for people to play with and give out. My policy is that *anyone* who contributes to the project in any way gets some type of hardware (coding is just one way)! We will also have things like the EVT stretch board, plastic case and a programming jig if people want to see various parts of the production process. Hope to see you then! 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One block south is a BMX/ scooter play > track that looks amazing.? > > There are BBQ cookers at the East North corner of the playground.? > > We're probably not going, both due to being local, and getting Cynthia > to bed (we're 30m drive out of town), but I fully endorse the suggestion! > > Rob > > On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 14:37 Jason Lewis wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone who's here with their kids would like to catch > up for some social thing with their families? > > My wife and I were thinking perhaps we could have an early evening > picnic at the Margret Mahy playground on Wednesday evening (I know > this > clashes with the PDNS and the UPDNS) > > Apparently it's a great place for the kids > > https://www.ccc.govt.nz/news-and-events/running-an-event/central-city-event-venues-map/margaret-mahy-playground/ > > open to other suggestions for times or places > > > Jason > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It's possible > that inter-device connection is blocked on the LCA wifi, or that I've done > something wrong. > I?ve been unable to communicate between devices ok the network at BJH; haven?t tried on campus > > Interested in others' experiences. No big deal, though. > > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From madduck at madduck.net Wed Jan 23 12:55:06 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:55:06 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Number of raffle tickets Message-ID: <20190123015506.GA3240@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Hey there, will the number of raffle tickets be capped, and if so, at what number? I am trying to find arguments why I should spend more, apart from DFA being awesome! Hugs, -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net god is real, unless declared integer. (dedicated to gabriel g?mez) spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: digital_signature_gpg.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1118 bytes Desc: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) URL: From geekscape at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 12:55:40 2019 From: geekscape at gmail.com (Andy Gelme) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 14:55:40 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] BoF for Open Hardware Mini-Conference (self-driving cars), Thursday 12:30 pm, room A1 Message-ID: <4fb91964-788c-2b86-8d9b-b61eed59ab83@gmail.com> hi OHMC attendees ... and anyone interested in self-driving scale-model cars (DonkeyCar), Machine Learning, robotics, etc ... If you'd like any assistance getting your OHMC DonkeyCar going ... and to race against other self-driving cars ... 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Anyone is welcome > to take it over, please simply edit the wiki page: > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/DecentralisationBoF > > Unless someone claimed it by Thursday night, I will remove the BoF > and free up the slot. > > -- > @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net > > "reife des mannes, das ist es, > den ernst wiedergefunden zu haben, den > man hatte als kind beim spiel." > -- friedrich nietzsche > > spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > Email had 1 attachment: > + digital_signature_gpg.asc > 1k (application/pgp-signature) From chair at lca2019.org Wed Jan 23 13:09:29 2019 From: chair at lca2019.org (Steven Sykes) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 15:09:29 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Number of raffle tickets In-Reply-To: <20190123015506.GA3240@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> References: <20190123015506.GA3240@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: Hello! No cap exists on the number of raffle tickets. We want to support Digital Future Aotearoa as much as possible and not impose limitations. So that basically means buy buy buy! :) On 23/01/19 2:55 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > Hey there, > > will the number of raffle tickets be capped, and if so, at what number? > I am trying to find arguments why I should spend more, apart from DFA > being awesome! > > Hugs, > > -- Steven Sykes Chair, LCA 2019 Twitter: @linuxconfau Web: linux.conf.au/ From madduck at madduck.net Wed Jan 23 14:10:57 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 16:10:57 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Decentralisation BoF In-Reply-To: <1548209198.3837289.1641352312.4C6912E7@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <20190123015704.GA3426@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <1548209198.3837289.1641352312.4C6912E7@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <20190123031057.GA20764@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Quoting "Michael Wheeler", who wrote on 2019-01-23 at 13:06 Uhr +1100: >We could probably hold the BoF over many different locations and >times then share findings asynchronously through a mesh of >connected nodes; if that makes things easier on everyones schedule. Thank you, Michael. Are you going to write the smart contract? -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net if you see an onion ring -- answer it! spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: digital_signature_gpg.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 1118 bytes Desc: Digital GPG signature (see http://martin-krafft.net/gpg/sig-policy/999bbcc4/current) URL: From mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com Wed Jan 23 15:09:07 2019 From: mattcen+linuxconfau at mattcen.com (Matt Cengia) Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:09:07 -0500 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pride BoF plan? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34db27d5-0e7b-4937-8789-70ef78cf7040@www.fastmail.com> Hi all, The Pride BoF had a few people at afternoon tea today. I'll also be doing lunch tomorrow if anybody wants to hang out. Details at https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Pride_Bof#Lunchtime_Thursday_Meet_Up. On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, at 11:59, Matt Cengia wrote: > Hi again all, and sorry for the delay! > > I have *just* noticed that there's a plan on the wiki (https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Pride_Bof#Lunchtime_Wednesday_Meet_Up) to meet at the C block entrance for lunch, but this doesn't appear to have been announced elsewhere. People may want to get in on this; I'm not sure yet if I'll make it > > So I've updated the wiki page to also include an afternoon tea meetup today, with the possibility of more meetups tomorrow. See the page for details! > > On Mon, Jan 21, 2019, at 12:53, Matt Cengia wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> The Pride BoF is listed on the wiki , and the page was created by Paul.mcinerney . There are no current concrete plans, and, in the absence of any other contacted details, I'm wondering if the organiser wants any help making this happen. I'm a previous organiser of these BoFs and don't want to step on any toes, but also don't want it to suffer from the bystander effect or people being unable to find time to coordinate it. >> >> Feel free to email me or shoot me a message via Matrix/IRC or Twitter. I'm @mattcen on both. >> >> -- >> Regards, >> Matt Cengia >> > > -- > Regards, > Matt Cengia > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Regards, Matt Cengia -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jason at dickson.st Wed Jan 23 15:40:44 2019 From: jason at dickson.st (Jason Lewis) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 17:40:44 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Family BoF In-Reply-To: (sfid-20190123_122906_729273_13A99841) References: (sfid-20190123_122906_729273_13A99841) Message-ID: Hi all, Given the weather we?re not going to the park. We may or may not try and organise another time Jason > On 23 Jan 2019, at 2:28 pm, Jason Lewis wrote: > > thanks for the tips and endorsement Robert. > > Jason > >> On 22/1/19 7:22 pm, Robert Collins wrote: >> Margaret Mahy Park is amazing. One block south is a BMX/ scooter play track that looks amazing. >> >> There are BBQ cookers at the East North corner of the playground. >> >> We're probably not going, both due to being local, and getting Cynthia to bed (we're 30m drive out of town), but I fully endorse the suggestion! >> >> Rob >> >>> On Tue., 22 Jan. 2019, 14:37 Jason Lewis >> I'm wondering if anyone who's here with their kids would like to catch >>> up for some social thing with their families? >>> >>> My wife and I were thinking perhaps we could have an early evening >>> picnic at the Margret Mahy playground on Wednesday evening (I know this >>> clashes with the PDNS and the UPDNS) >>> >>> Apparently it's a great place for the kids >>> >>> https://www.ccc.govt.nz/news-and-events/running-an-event/central-city-event-venues-map/margaret-mahy-playground/ >>> >>> open to other suggestions for times or places >>> >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Plug in the USB port on the bonnet to your PC. If you're using Windows, you'll need to install the drivers from https://www.silabs.com/products/development-tools/software/usb-to-uart-bridge-vcp-drivers As it boots, it will connect to WiFi, and will display the IP address on the console as it starts. Enjoy! --Rob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From portablejim at jamesmckay.id.au Thu Jan 24 07:14:53 2019 From: portablejim at jamesmckay.id.au (James McKay) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 09:14:53 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Flower Bonnet Docs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <91e38aa2-edfc-f273-a4d6-0db50497578e@jamesmckay.id.au> Even after enabling SPI, I can't seem to get the LCD screen working. The closest I get is the following warning by using the example in the README.md: /home/pi/floral-bonnet-testkit/py-rpi-ssd1306/ssd1306.py:50: RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, continuing anyway.? Use GPIO.setwarnings(False) to disable warnings. ? GPIO.setup(self.pin_dc, GPIO.OUT) /home/pi/floral-bonnet-testkit/py-rpi-ssd1306/ssd1306.py:51: RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, continuing anyway.? Use GPIO.setwarnings(False) to disable warnings. ? GPIO.setup(self.pin_reset, GPIO.OUT) Can anyone offer any help? On 23/1/19 1:43 pm, Roman Vaughan wrote: > Here is a GitHub Repo for the board > https://github.com/unreproducible/bonnet_floral > > And here are some code examples using it > > https://github.com/e-ale/floral-bonnet-testkit > > > -------- Original Message -------- > On 23 Jan 2019, 1:27 PM, Rob Thomas < xrobau at gmail.com> wrote: > > > I was lucky enough to snap up one of the few Flower Bonnets that > were left over, and being that I wasn't in the course, I have no > idea of the GPIO mappings. > > Does anyone have the docs/examples that they can share? > > --Rob > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Thu, Jan 24, 2019, at 09:40, Aimee Maree Forsstrom wrote: > With all the discussions on not being mean to peoples OS of choice, I > would like to ask why is it ok for me to be consistently told how > terrible BlockChain is? How is it any different? > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Regards, Matt Cengia From portablejim at jamesmckay.id.au Thu Jan 24 07:56:04 2019 From: portablejim at jamesmckay.id.au (James McKay) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 09:56:04 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Flower Bonnet Docs In-Reply-To: References: <91e38aa2-edfc-f273-a4d6-0db50497578e@jamesmckay.id.au> Message-ID: Thanks. That worked. For others: https://github.com/adafruit/Adafruit_Python_SSD1306 ---- James McKay On 24/1/19 9:22 am, David Antliff wrote: > Try the Adafruit library - I had no success until I switched to that. > You have to uncomment the appropriate disp assignment in each example. > > ? David. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Chat on behalf of > James McKay > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2019 09:15 > *To:* chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > *Subject:* Re: [LCA2019 Chat] Flower Bonnet Docs > > Even after enabling SPI, I can't seem to get the LCD screen working. > > The closest I get is the following warning by using the example in the > README.md: > > /home/pi/floral-bonnet-testkit/py-rpi-ssd1306/ssd1306.py:50: > RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, continuing anyway.? > Use GPIO.setwarnings(False) to disable warnings. > ? GPIO.setup(self.pin_dc, GPIO.OUT) > /home/pi/floral-bonnet-testkit/py-rpi-ssd1306/ssd1306.py:51: > RuntimeWarning: This channel is already in use, continuing anyway.? > Use GPIO.setwarnings(False) to disable warnings. > ? GPIO.setup(self.pin_reset, GPIO.OUT) > > Can anyone offer any help? > > > On 23/1/19 1:43 pm, Roman Vaughan wrote: >> Here is a GitHub Repo for the board >> https://github.com/unreproducible/bonnet_floral >> >> >> And here are some code examples using it >> >> https://github.com/e-ale/floral-bonnet-testkit >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> On 23 Jan 2019, 1:27 PM, Rob Thomas < xrobau at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> I was lucky enough to snap up one of the few Flower Bonnets that >> were left over, and being that I wasn't in the course, I have no >> idea of the GPIO mappings. >> >> Does anyone have the docs/examples that they can share? >> >> --Rob >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I have no idea how to setup a BoF, so there's no time/date/room but if there's interest I'm sure we can make it happen. https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Rust_BoF I made a wiki page here, if you're interested please either reply here or update the wiki. Cheers jbit -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robertc at robertcollins.net Thu Jan 24 12:08:22 2019 From: robertc at robertcollins.net (Robert Collins) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:08:22 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] EV-curious? Message-ID: Sorry for only clicking to this today, but there are probably quite a few folk curious about EV's that haven't had the chance to get up close and personal with one (for the NZ'ers - Australia has very restrictive car import legislation, so they have a tiny fraction of our EV's on the road). Anyhow, if you are interested in EV's, hunt me down (email / twitter are decent options - IRC I will only get to sporadically) and I'd be delighted to get you some EV experience. (We're local and I'm driving in each day :)) There are others here with EV's too (Hi Marek!) - so if there is a huge flood of demand maybe we should organise a bof or some such. -Rob From mikal at stillhq.com Thu Jan 24 12:39:39 2019 From: mikal at stillhq.com (Michael Still) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 14:39:39 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Home Assistant pointers on the wiki Message-ID: There was a request at the Home Assistant BoF for a page on the wiki that described some of the resources mentioned at the BoF. I've added a (small) section to https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/HomeAssistant_BoF which covers some of the stuff, but I am sure others have things to add there. Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was going to make one, as my talk on Backups solicited many additional ideas and wonderful information, and having a common place for people to find that, and add to it, but I didn't see a good place on the wiki for it. -- At the Club Sandwich Sandwich Club, we're reviewing *every *sandwich on the Wikipedia List of Sandwiches. Check us out! I also maintain a very active coding blog which you may be interested in! Rachel Codes! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From james.lee at twobulls.com Thu Jan 24 14:15:50 2019 From: james.lee at twobulls.com (James Lee) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 16:15:50 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Any interest in a Rust BoF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: There's been good interest in this, thanks guys! I'm proposing we meet in Room A1 in the lunch slot tomorrow. (I don't know the exact process behind organizing a BoF. But I made a wikipage and updated the main BoF list, so hopefully that's enough :) I'll keep https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Rust_BoF and this thread up to date in case of changes. I should mention I'm not affiliated with the rust project, just an interested developer :) --jbit On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:52 PM James Lee wrote: > Hey! > > There are a bunch of talks about rust at the con, and there seems to be a > bunch of interest too. > > Would anybody be interested in a rust BoF? > It might be a good chance for new people to figure out how to get started, > interested parties to learn why everybody is talking about this new > language, experience users to swap war stories and just for knowing who's > out there using it on this side of the planet. > > I have no idea how to setup a BoF, so there's no time/date/room but if > there's interest I'm sure we can make it happen. > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Rust_BoF I made a wiki page here, if > you're interested please either reply here or update the wiki. > > Cheers > > jbit > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(We're local and I'm driving > in each day :)) > > There are others here with EV's too (Hi > Marek > !) - so if there is a > huge flood of demand maybe we should organise a bof or some such. > > -Rob > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From greguu at null.net Thu Jan 24 22:41:45 2019 From: greguu at null.net (Greg) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:41:45 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] BoF : The Future of XScale - PXA & IXP SOCs - The forgotten Intel ARM chip ? Message-ID: Short notice BoF will be taking place outside Cafe 101, between 3:10 pm to 3:50 pm today (Friday) Topics: Linux on Intel based ARM devices Implementing device tree for legacy XScale platforms. Porting of IXP43x SOC variety boards and RTL8366s switches to mainline. Keeping the Sharp Zaurus and alike alive. 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The Python tutorials are: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYsUlW1N_oFCqTyCfyjm8MumQwrJUwAMobaH2lwczyA/edit?usp=sharing The secret message challenge is (challenge given to kids, suggested solution, code to generate custom challenges): https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallenge https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallengeSolution https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallegeGenerator The second challenge I did (not mentioned in talk): https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallenge https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallengeSolution https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallengeGenerator Slides from talk: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1H3jPFhHj90B_BEQ96YYM__0eZbHpONzw0oy-QS2Thrc/edit?usp=sharing Hope this helps, find me if you have any questions. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Current and > former miniconf organizers will be on hand to answer questions and provide > tips on how write a good miniconf proposal, organize speakers, and run a > great event. > > > > Hope to see you there, > > > > Brian Moss (Docs Down Under Miniconf) > > > > > > -- > Lana Brindley > http://lanabrindley.com > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bernie at codewiz.org Fri Jan 25 07:19:56 2019 From: bernie at codewiz.org (Bernie Innocenti) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:19:56 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Any interest in a Rust BoF? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you for offering to organize this. Shall we also announce it on IRC, for those who didn't find the time to check their email? On 24/01/2019 16.15, James Lee wrote: > There's been good interest in this, thanks guys! > > I'm proposing we meet in Room A1 in the lunch slot tomorrow. > (I don't know the exact process behind organizing a BoF. But I made a > wikipage and updated the main BoF list, so hopefully that's enough :) > > I'll keep https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Rust_BoF and this thread up to > date in case of changes. > > I should mention I'm not affiliated with the rust project, just an > interested developer :) > > --jbit > > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 12:52 PM James Lee > wrote: > > Hey! > > There are a bunch of talks about rust at the con, and there seems to > be a bunch of interest too. > > Would anybody be interested in a rust BoF? > It might be a good chance for new people to figure out how to get > started, interested parties to learn why everybody is talking about > this new language, experience users to swap war stories and just for > knowing who's out there using it on this side of the planet. > > I have no idea how to setup a BoF, so there's no time/date/room but > if there's interest I'm sure we can make it happen. > > https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Rust_BoF I made a wiki page here, if > you're interested please either reply here or update the wiki. > > Cheers > > jbit > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ https://codewiz.org/ From russell at coker.com.au Fri Jan 25 07:34:01 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 07:34:01 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] departing Message-ID: <1835493.DFaPjoBbhR@liv> I'm on flight JQ174 leaving at 9:05. Anyone want to share a taxi? If 4 of us are in a taxi it should be cheaper than the bus. We can go from wherever the BBQ is. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From madduck at madduck.net Fri Jan 25 07:43:24 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 09:43:24 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] =?utf-8?q?Sat_11=3A35_=E2=86=92_WLG_=28Dave_Aldri?= =?utf-8?b?ZGdlLCBSaWNoYXJkIEJ5d2F0ZXIsIOKApik=?= Message-ID: <20190124204324.GA28364@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Dave, Rich, anyone else, want to share a car tomorrow to the airport? Please get in touch. https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/User:Madduck -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net "wickedness is a myth invented by good people to account for the curious attraction of others." -- oscar wilde spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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We've even got a >> Kernel Self Protection Project and everything! >> >> We had a BoF last year to talk about current kernel hardening issues, and >> I'm keen to see it continue. If you're interested please put your name down >> on the list so we can see how much interest there is. >> >> If anyone's interested in taking over the organisation of this (Kees?) I >> would be more than happy because I'm already trying to run a miniconf. >> >> At present leaning towards Friday lunchtime, unless there's objections. >> >> https://2019.linux.conf.au/wiki/Kernel_Hardening_BoF >> >> > There being no objections, and it being helpfully pointed out that Friday > lunchtime would be nicely sandwiched between two extremely relevant talks, > I've put this down for Friday lunchtime hopefully in the C2 theatre. > Reminder this is on today. Andrew > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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If it gets too cold, we will find a room. :) -- Roger Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From secretary at lca2019.org Fri Jan 25 11:29:51 2019 From: secretary at lca2019.org (Tobias Schulmann) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:29:51 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pinging Benno Rice Message-ID: Can you please come to rego?:) From ben at dechrai.com Fri Jan 25 11:31:54 2019 From: ben at dechrai.com (Ben Dechrai) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:31:54 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pinging Benno Rice In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62B223A6-281F-448C-A505-DAD3C2B4328D@dechrai.com> I just walked past Benno. He's in a meeting and will be there shortly ? On 25 January 2019 1:29:51 pm NZDT, Tobias Schulmann wrote: >Can you please come to rego?:) > >-- >Chat mailing list >Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >-- >Message protected by MailGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and >content filtering.http://www.mailguard.com.au/mg >Click here to report this message as spam: >https://console.mailguard.com.au/ras/1UYzrl2jmO/2Z1tJfH8higdziHXSkoQtf/7 -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ross at drummond.co.nz Fri Jan 25 11:34:00 2019 From: ross at drummond.co.nz (Ross Drummond) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 13:34:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Gentoo Re BoF In-Reply-To: <4D920088-B54F-4CB8-9F04-3539A4CBF79B@gmail.com> References: <4D920088-B54F-4CB8-9F04-3539A4CBF79B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes where ? Cheers Ross Drummond On 25.01.2019 10:08, Roger Welsh wrote: > Hi, > > Me and a couple of other Gentoo users missed the Gentoo BoF on Tuesday. > > Would any Gentoo users be interested in meeting up during the afternoon break today (Friday)? > -- > Roger > > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hrothgar013 at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 12:20:00 2019 From: hrothgar013 at gmail.com (Roger Welsh) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 14:20:00 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Gentoo Re BoF In-Reply-To: References: <4D920088-B54F-4CB8-9F04-3539A4CBF79B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1C778915-9D15-42BC-B624-EF1B2F001FE4@gmail.com> Hi, > Where? Just outside C block on the lawn. Under a tree somewhere. Somewhere near the cricket wickets. During the afternoon break (3:10pm). -- Roger Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at serwylo.com Fri Jan 25 12:25:02 2019 From: peter at serwylo.com (Peter Serwylo) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:25:02 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] departing In-Reply-To: <1835493.DFaPjoBbhR@liv> References: <1835493.DFaPjoBbhR@liv> Message-ID: Hi Russel, I'm also on this flight, will be at the BBQ, and am happy to share a taxi. Unfortunately I don't have a SIM card, but the UC Club does have spotty internet and thus I will have access to this mailing list, email, and IRC (pserwylo on #linux.conf.au). Cheers, pete. On 25/1/19 7:34 am, Russell Coker wrote: > I'm on flight JQ174 leaving at 9:05. Anyone want to share a taxi? If 4 of us > are in a taxi it should be cheaper than the bus. We can go from wherever the > BBQ is. > From russell at coker.com.au Fri Jan 25 14:54:28 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 16:54:28 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] departing In-Reply-To: References: <1835493.DFaPjoBbhR@liv> Message-ID: <8ACB779A-DB80-4181-A980-9999BE420DFB@coker.com.au> For 2 of us it's probably cheaper to go by bus if we can find the right stop. Hopefully we can find more. I'll see you at the BBQ, Google me if you want to see a pic so you can recognise me. On 25 January 2019 2:25:02 pm NZDT, Peter Serwylo wrote: >Hi Russel, > >I'm also on this flight, will be at the BBQ, and am happy to share a >taxi. Unfortunately I don't have a SIM card, but the UC Club does have >spotty internet and thus I will have access to this mailing list, >email, >and IRC (pserwylo on #linux.conf.au). > >Cheers, > >pete. > >On 25/1/19 7:34 am, Russell Coker wrote: >> I'm on flight JQ174 leaving at 9:05. Anyone want to share a taxi? >If 4 of us >> are in a taxi it should be cheaper than the bus. We can go from >wherever the >> BBQ is. >> -- Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 with K-9 Mail. From lca at char.id.au Fri Jan 25 11:12:10 2019 From: lca at char.id.au (Charelle Collett) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 10:12:10 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Hagley Park parkrun (or walk) tomorrow Message-ID: <1548375130.3855055.1643006544.67933FC6@webmail.messagingengine.com> Hello! I'll be going to Hagley Parkrun [1] tomorrow morning, and if anyone else feels like they ate too much at the penguin dinner, or just want some nice outdoors time - come along! Parkrun is a volunteer-run event every Saturday morning in cities around the world. The course is 5km through pretty parkland, and everyone is welcome no matter what speed - walking or jogging. If you register (free) online and get a barcode, you'll be emailed your time later in the day. You can then use that same barcode in your home cities' Parkrun. The event starts at 8am. Goal is to leave the residences around 7:10am to catch the Purple bus from the bus stop "University - Ilam Rd" at 7:22am. Probably easiest is to meet at the bus stop - it's the one in front of the carpark at the university. (Maybe) see you there! Char. [1] https://www.parkrun.co.nz/hagley/ From russell at coker.com.au Fri Jan 25 13:39:32 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:39:32 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] departing In-Reply-To: References: <1835493.DFaPjoBbhR@liv> Message-ID: <9D8318D5-D96F-4C53-A1D6-A334EA45A653@coker.com.au> Great! For just 2 of us bus will be cheaper but taxi will be easier. I've attached a pic so you can recognise me. On 25 January 2019 2:25:02 pm NZDT, Peter Serwylo wrote: >Hi Russel, > >I'm also on this flight, will be at the BBQ, and am happy to share a >taxi. Unfortunately I don't have a SIM card, but the UC Club does have >spotty internet and thus I will have access to this mailing list, >email, >and IRC (pserwylo on #linux.conf.au). > >Cheers, > >pete. > >On 25/1/19 7:34 am, Russell Coker wrote: >> I'm on flight JQ174 leaving at 9:05. Anyone want to share a taxi? >If 4 of us >> are in a taxi it should be cheaper than the bus. We can go from >wherever the >> BBQ is. >> -- Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 with K-9 Mail. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Unfortunately I don't have a SIM card, but the UC Club does have >>spotty internet and thus I will have access to this mailing list, >>email, >>and IRC (pserwylo on #linux.conf.au). >> >>Cheers, >> >>pete. >> >>On 25/1/19 7:34 am, Russell Coker wrote: >>> I'm on flight JQ174 leaving at 9:05. Anyone want to share a taxi? >>If 4 of us >>> are in a taxi it should be cheaper than the bus. We can go from >>wherever the >>> BBQ is. >>> > >-- >Sent from my Huawei Mate 9 with K-9 Mail. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Catch me. 07:00 NZ881 to Sydney Irving Tjiptowarsono (irving at irvingst.id.au) Lennon 07:10 QF134 to Brisbane Rob Thomas (xrobau) (Then on to Gladstone) Andrew Donnellan (@ajdlinux, onwards to Canberra QF1553) Paul Haesler (@paul_haesler) Arjen Lentz (arjen at lentz.com.au, @arjenlentz, arjenAU) Tony Brown (@triangulum_au) From dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au Fri Jan 25 16:58:37 2019 From: dt-lca2019 at handcraftedcomputers.com.au (Daryl Tester) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 18:58:37 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Colleges to airport for Sat 7:xx am flights In-Reply-To: <79766C1D-574F-4D68-B259-1FF746BA9D35@openstem.com.au> References: <79766C1D-574F-4D68-B259-1FF746BA9D35@openstem.com.au> Message-ID: I've got one ordered for 4:30 am, if that aligns with your goals. Cheers. On 25 January 2019 17:53:19 GMT+13:00, Arjen Lentz wrote: >Looking at ordering a taxi for 5am from outside the college >accommodation. >(I don't do Uber) >Who wants to join? From the wiki, the are the suspects. Catch me. > >07:00 NZ881 to Sydney >Irving Tjiptowarsono (irving at irvingst.id.au) >Lennon >07:10 QF134 to Brisbane >Rob Thomas (xrobau) (Then on to Gladstone) >Andrew Donnellan (@ajdlinux, onwards to Canberra QF1553) >Paul Haesler (@paul_haesler) >Arjen Lentz (arjen at lentz.com.au, @arjenlentz, arjenAU) >Tony Brown (@triangulum_au) From linuxconf at libertysys.com.au Fri Jan 25 18:26:38 2019 From: linuxconf at libertysys.com.au (Paul Gear) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:26:38 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Hagley Park parkrun (or walk) tomorrow In-Reply-To: <1548375130.3855055.1643006544.67933FC6@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1548375130.3855055.1643006544.67933FC6@webmail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <4b902944-52e4-6e49-0298-128edb29064d@libertysys.com.au> On 25/1/19 1:12 pm, Charelle Collett wrote: > Hello! > > I'll be going to Hagley Parkrun [1] tomorrow morning, and if anyone else feels like they ate too much at the penguin dinner, or just want some nice outdoors time - come along! > > Parkrun is a volunteer-run event every Saturday morning in cities around the world. The course is 5km through pretty parkland, and everyone is welcome no matter what speed - walking or jogging. If you register (free) online and get a barcode, you'll be emailed your time later in the day. You can then use that same barcode in your home cities' Parkrun. > > The event starts at 8am. Goal is to leave the residences around 7:10am to catch the Purple bus from the bus stop "University - Ilam Rd" at 7:22am. Probably easiest is to meet at the bus stop - it's the one in front of the carpark at the university. Does the bus take cash?? I was thinking of starting at around 6:50-7:00 and taking a leisurely jog into Hagley Park; it should take about 30 minutes going at a slow pace (7:00/km). Paul From duaneg at electricmemory.co.nz Fri Jan 25 18:42:58 2019 From: duaneg at electricmemory.co.nz (Duane Griffin) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:42:58 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Teaching 9-10 year olds to code: Python materials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Robert, I can't wait to try these out with my kids. Will let you know how it goes! Cheers, Duane. On Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 8:14 AM Robert Ancell Some people asked for the course materials I mentioned in my talk. > > The Python tutorials are: > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYsUlW1N_oFCqTyCfyjm8MumQwrJUwAMobaH2lwczyA/edit?usp=sharing > > The secret message challenge is (challenge given to kids, suggested > solution, code to generate custom challenges): > https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallenge > https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallengeSolution > https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallegeGenerator > > The second challenge I did (not mentioned in talk): > https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallenge > https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallengeSolution > https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallengeGenerator > > Slides from talk: > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1H3jPFhHj90B_BEQ96YYM__0eZbHpONzw0oy-QS2Thrc/edit?usp=sharing > > Hope this helps, find me if you have any questions. > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org Fri Jan 25 18:47:25 2019 From: speaker-coordinator at lca2019.org (Eila Gendig) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:47:25 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Hagley Park parkrun (or walk) tomorrow In-Reply-To: <4b902944-52e4-6e49-0298-128edb29064d@libertysys.com.au> References: <1548375130.3855055.1643006544.67933FC6@webmail.messagingengine.com> <4b902944-52e4-6e49-0298-128edb29064d@libertysys.com.au> Message-ID: <8DA533C3-D69F-448C-B2E2-8BAD1A1AA117@lca2019.org> Yes, you can pay on the bus in cash. > On 25/01/2019, at 8:26 PM, Paul Gear wrote: > >> On 25/1/19 1:12 pm, Charelle Collett wrote: >> Hello! >> >> I'll be going to Hagley Parkrun [1] tomorrow morning, and if anyone else feels like they ate too much at the penguin dinner, or just want some nice outdoors time - come along! >> >> Parkrun is a volunteer-run event every Saturday morning in cities around the world. The course is 5km through pretty parkland, and everyone is welcome no matter what speed - walking or jogging. If you register (free) online and get a barcode, you'll be emailed your time later in the day. You can then use that same barcode in your home cities' Parkrun. >> >> The event starts at 8am. Goal is to leave the residences around 7:10am to catch the Purple bus from the bus stop "University - Ilam Rd" at 7:22am. Probably easiest is to meet at the bus stop - it's the one in front of the carpark at the university. > > > Does the bus take cash? I was thinking of starting at around 6:50-7:00 and taking a leisurely jog into Hagley Park; it should take about 30 minutes going at a slow pace (7:00/km). > > Paul > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat From carl at nextdayvideo.com Fri Jan 25 18:54:41 2019 From: carl at nextdayvideo.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 01:54:41 -0600 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Teaching 9-10 year olds to code: Python materials In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Carl here from AV team - who also loves teaching people python and have a new answer to "can you teach me some python" I carry this with me at all times - find me tonight and I'll show it to you: https://www.adafruit.com/product/3333 $25usd it runs Circuit Python, exposes a fs over usb, you edit code.py, hit save, and you are controverting LEDs no downloading or installing anything. need something that can edit a text file on a thumb drive. which means they are engaged within 5 minutes. here is the video I made of a 2 hour workshop using it: http://youtu.be/RhgKRp3oo5o How I set them up: https://github.com/CarlFK/cpx On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 1:43 AM Duane Griffin wrote: > Thanks Robert, > > I can't wait to try these out with my kids. Will let you know how it goes! > > Cheers, > Duane. > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019, 8:14 AM Robert Ancell wrote: > >> Some people asked for the course materials I mentioned in my talk. >> >> The Python tutorials are: >> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vYsUlW1N_oFCqTyCfyjm8MumQwrJUwAMobaH2lwczyA/edit?usp=sharing >> >> The secret message challenge is (challenge given to kids, suggested >> solution, code to generate custom challenges): >> https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallenge >> https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallengeSolution >> https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretMessageChallegeGenerator >> >> The second challenge I did (not mentioned in talk): >> https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallenge >> https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallengeSolution >> https://repl.it/@RobertAncell/SecretImageChallengeGenerator >> >> Slides from talk: >> >> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1H3jPFhHj90B_BEQ96YYM__0eZbHpONzw0oy-QS2Thrc/edit?usp=sharing >> >> Hope this helps, find me if you have any questions. >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thaytan at noraisin.net Fri Jan 25 19:56:11 2019 From: thaytan at noraisin.net (Jan Schmidt) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:56:11 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Looking for something to watch on your flights? Message-ID: Anyone that has a long trip home and is looking to watch some of the talks you missed at LCA, you can easily download most (all, already?) of the talk videos from: https://archive.org/search.php?query=subject%3A"lca2019" Safe travels and see you all next year! Cheers, Jan. From andrew at donnellan.id.au Fri Jan 25 21:26:52 2019 From: andrew at donnellan.id.au (Andrew Donnellan) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 21:26:52 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Colleges to airport for Sat 7:xx am flights In-Reply-To: <79766C1D-574F-4D68-B259-1FF746BA9D35@openstem.com.au> References: <79766C1D-574F-4D68-B259-1FF746BA9D35@openstem.com.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 15:53, Arjen Lentz wrote: > Looking at ordering a taxi for 5am from outside the college accommodation. > (I don't do Uber) > Who wants to join? From the wiki, the are the suspects. Catch me. > > 07:00 NZ881 to Sydney > Irving Tjiptowarsono (irving at irvingst.id.au) > Lennon > 07:10 QF134 to Brisbane > Rob Thomas (xrobau) (Then on to Gladstone) > Andrew Donnellan (@ajdlinux, onwards to Canberra QF1553) > Paul Haesler (@paul_haesler) > Arjen Lentz (arjen at lentz.com.au, @arjenlentz, arjenAU) > Tony Brown (@triangulum_au) > If this isn't too late - I am on QF134, happy to join in a collective transport. 0430 is too early, 0500 I can do. If I don't get an acknowledgement then I'll be just fine organising my own transport :) -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Peter.Chubb at data61.csiro.au Sat Jan 26 07:23:16 2019 From: Peter.Chubb at data61.csiro.au (Peter.Chubb at data61.csiro.au) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:23:16 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] [ExternalEmail] Re: FYI: Headless Setup for RPI zero using Flower Bonnet. In-Reply-To: <84zhrphqex.wl-Peter.Chubb@data61.csiro.au> References: <84zhrphqex.wl-Peter.Chubb@data61.csiro.au> Message-ID: <841s50wkpc.wl-Peter.Chubb@data61.csiro.au> >>>>> writes: >>>>> "Rob" == Rob Thomas writes: Rob> If you haven't done it before, it's very simple to set up. > In addition, to enable i2c so you can talk to the > temp/humidity/barometer and lightmeter, uncomment the line The BME280 also has an in-kernel driver. TO enable, add dtoverlay=i2c-sensor,bme280,addr=0x76 to /boot/config.txt and then reboot the pi. You can then extract temp, pressure, and RH as fixed-point numbers from /sys/bus/iio/devices/iio:device0/ and do a few other things --- set oversampling, control power (see the datasheet). Or you can use libiio in your C code. (IIO stands for Industrial I/O and is an in-kernel standard for talking to sensors, actuators, and the like). There are in-kernel drivers for the ambient light sensor and OLED display as well, but the light sensor one is not there `out of the box'. Enable Device Drivers->Industrial Io->light sensors->TAOS TSL2560 and rebuild your kernel. The module for the OLED only talks I2C, so will need modifying to use the SPI connected one on the Bonnet. Peter C From hellessey at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 09:53:06 2019 From: hellessey at gmail.com (Michael Hellessey) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:53:06 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Ubers from Uni to Airport Message-ID: If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the airport, be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early if you can. We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to the airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. Cheers Michael -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrew On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 09:53, Michael Hellessey wrote: > If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the airport, > be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early if you > can. > > We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to the > airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. > > Cheers > > Michael > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liz at lizquilty.com Sat Jan 26 10:06:19 2019 From: liz at lizquilty.com (Liz Quilty) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:06:19 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Ubers from Uni to Airport In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Interesting, we had next to no wait, and direct ride to airport at 7.30am this morning. Wonder if its only some hours? Liz On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:05, Andrew Donnellan wrote: > Be aware that this also applies in the early morning - a few of us heading > to the airport at 05:00 to make 07:00 flights had to wait ~15 minutes for > pickups too, and I also had my first driver cancel on me. > > Andrew > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 09:53, Michael Hellessey > wrote: > >> If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the airport, >> be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early if you >> can. >> >> We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to the >> airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. >> >> Cheers >> >> Michael >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > > > -- > Andrew Donnellan > http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brchoi.max at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 10:11:39 2019 From: brchoi.max at gmail.com (Max Choi) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:11:39 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Ubers from Uni to Airport In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Beer Festival is on today so I expect there are higher demands than usual. https://www.eventfinda.co.nz/2019/great-kiwi-beer-festival/christchurch Max On 26 January 2019 at 12:06:19 PM, Liz Quilty (liz at lizquilty.com) wrote: > Interesting, we had next to no wait, and direct ride to airport at 7.30am > this morning. > > Wonder if its only some hours? > > Liz > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:05, Andrew Donnellan > wrote: > >> Be aware that this also applies in the early morning - a few of us >> heading to the airport at 05:00 to make 07:00 flights had to wait ~15 >> minutes for pickups too, and I also had my first driver cancel on me. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 09:53, Michael Hellessey >> wrote: >> >>> If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the >>> airport, be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early >>> if you can. >>> >>> We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to the >>> airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Michael >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Donnellan >> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From liz at lizquilty.com Sat Jan 26 10:21:15 2019 From: liz at lizquilty.com (Liz Quilty) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:21:15 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Ubers from Uni to Airport In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Also a car show, and tattoo festival Liz On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:11, Max Choi wrote: > The Beer Festival is on today so I expect there are higher demands than > usual. > > https://www.eventfinda.co.nz/2019/great-kiwi-beer-festival/christchurch > > > Max > > On 26 January 2019 at 12:06:19 PM, Liz Quilty (liz at lizquilty.com) wrote: > >> Interesting, we had next to no wait, and direct ride to airport at 7.30am >> this morning. >> >> Wonder if its only some hours? >> >> Liz >> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:05, Andrew Donnellan >> wrote: >> >>> Be aware that this also applies in the early morning - a few of us >>> heading to the airport at 05:00 to make 07:00 flights had to wait ~15 >>> minutes for pickups too, and I also had my first driver cancel on me. >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 09:53, Michael Hellessey >>> wrote: >>> >>>> If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the >>>> airport, be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early >>>> if you can. >>>> >>>> We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to the >>>> airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Michael >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Andrew Donnellan >>> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Andrew > > Liz > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:05, Andrew Donnellan > wrote: > >> Be aware that this also applies in the early morning - a few of us >> heading to the airport at 05:00 to make 07:00 flights had to wait ~15 >> minutes for pickups too, and I also had my first driver cancel on me. >> >> Andrew >> >> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 09:53, Michael Hellessey >> wrote: >> >>> If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the >>> airport, be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early >>> if you can. >>> >>> We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to the >>> airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Michael >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> >> >> -- >> Andrew Donnellan >> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -- Andrew Donnellan http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cherieellisnz at gmail.com Sat Jan 26 10:27:26 2019 From: cherieellisnz at gmail.com (Cherie Ellis) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 12:27:26 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Ubers from Uni to Airport In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Fun times getting a ride - our driver said it was the beer festival, and that the traffic in general was heavy. On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:21, Liz Quilty wrote: > Also a car show, and tattoo festival > > Liz > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:11, Max Choi wrote: > >> The Beer Festival is on today so I expect there are higher demands than >> usual. >> >> https://www.eventfinda.co.nz/2019/great-kiwi-beer-festival/christchurch >> >> >> Max >> >> On 26 January 2019 at 12:06:19 PM, Liz Quilty (liz at lizquilty.com) wrote: >> >>> Interesting, we had next to no wait, and direct ride to airport at >>> 7.30am this morning. >>> >>> Wonder if its only some hours? >>> >>> Liz >>> >>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 12:05, Andrew Donnellan >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Be aware that this also applies in the early morning - a few of us >>>> heading to the airport at 05:00 to make 07:00 flights had to wait ~15 >>>> minutes for pickups too, and I also had my first driver cancel on me. >>>> >>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 09:53, Michael Hellessey >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If you're planning on getting an uber from around the uni to the >>>>> airport, be aware there could be a considerable wait, so try to leave early >>>>> if you can. >>>>> >>>>> We had a 20 minute wait to pickup, and during the 15 minute ride to >>>>> the airport the driver rejected some 30+ pickup requests. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Michael >>>>> -- >>>>> Chat mailing list >>>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Andrew Donnellan >>>> http://andrew.donnellan.id.au andrew at donnellan.id.au >>>> -- >>>> Chat mailing list >>>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>>> >>> -- >>> Chat mailing list >>> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >>> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >>> >> -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -- Cherie Ellis +64 21 293 9746 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at merlins.org Sat Jan 26 10:29:51 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 15:29:51 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Keeping the same Linux Conf Wifi password In-Reply-To: <87zhrvlteq.fsf@silverfish.pri> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> <87zhrvlteq.fsf@silverfish.pri> Message-ID: <20190125232951.pb62zxssxm5p6jwv@merlins.org> On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 07:44:45PM +1300, Brian May wrote: > Michael Wheeler writes: > > > Is there an alternative hand shake? I'm having trouble multiplying large prime numbers in my head. > > I am not sure it is acceptable conduct to post secret protocol details > of the secret handshake here on this mailing list. So, is it crazy to suggest that LCA just keep the same password from year to year? I propose: LcaRulezFTW! but more seriously, any password, just keep it the same. Will save all of us to have to change it on all our computers and phones every year. A fun activity and all, but gets old after 15+ years :) Yes, I realize that some people will be able to fly across Oz/NZ and get free wifi for a week without having to register for the conf, and it is truly terrible, but maybe we can cope? :) Cheers, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From russell at coker.com.au Sat Jan 26 10:39:43 2019 From: russell at coker.com.au (Russell Coker) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 10:39:43 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Keeping the same Linux Conf Wifi password In-Reply-To: <20190125232951.pb62zxssxm5p6jwv@merlins.org> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <87zhrvlteq.fsf@silverfish.pri> <20190125232951.pb62zxssxm5p6jwv@merlins.org> Message-ID: <3973521.gVfaYs5VX6@liv> On Saturday, 26 January 2019 10:29:51 AM AEDT Marc MERLIN wrote: > Yes, I realize that some people will be able to fly across Oz/NZ and get > free wifi for a week without having to register for the conf, and it is > truly terrible, but maybe we can cope? https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/wifi/ Christchurch libraries have free wifi. Someone who wanted wifi in Christchurch would have been better off going to a library which probably has a comfortable chair rather than hanging around the conference which had park benches. There was a time when free wifi was a big deal. But nowadays it seems that every library has it and it's generally fast at the library too. That said having the same password every LCA doesn't seem like a good idea, we don't want it on a list of free wifi passwords. But putting it on the main web site at the start of the conference doesn't seem harmful. -- My Main Blog http://etbe.coker.com.au/ My Documents Blog http://doc.coker.com.au/ From steve at nerdvana.org.au Sat Jan 26 10:58:48 2019 From: steve at nerdvana.org.au (Steve Walsh) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 10:58:48 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Keeping the same Linux Conf Wifi password In-Reply-To: <20190125232951.pb62zxssxm5p6jwv@merlins.org> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> <87zhrvlteq.fsf@silverfish.pri> <20190125232951.pb62zxssxm5p6jwv@merlins.org> Message-ID: <7e4c2639-0fc9-02fc-ef96-333d26f50673@nerdvana.org.au> Hi Marc I was hoping to catch up with you and discuss the issues around open wifi for the conference and the need to rotate every year, but it slipped my mind when we caught up at the conference dinner. If you're happy to wait until next year to discuss, please find me at GC2020, otherwise reach out to me off-list and I'll try to lay it all out in an email to explain, but it's a complex issue that kind of needs several historical things about the way the technologically enlightened AU government has handled the growth and use of the internet understood to put the reasons into context. regards Steve On 26/1/19 10:29 am, Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 07:44:45PM +1300, Brian May wrote: >> Michael Wheeler writes: >> >>> Is there an alternative hand shake? I'm having trouble multiplying large prime numbers in my head. >> I am not sure it is acceptable conduct to post secret protocol details >> of the secret handshake here on this mailing list. > So, is it crazy to suggest that LCA just keep the same password from > year to year? I propose: > LcaRulezFTW! > but more seriously, any password, just keep it the same. > > Will save all of us to have to change it on all our computers and phones > every year. A fun activity and all, but gets old after 15+ years :) > > Yes, I realize that some people will be able to fly across Oz/NZ and get > free wifi for a week without having to register for the conf, and it is > truly terrible, but maybe we can cope? :) > > Cheers, > Marc From marc at merlins.org Sat Jan 26 14:47:27 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:47:27 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Keeping the same Linux Conf Wifi password In-Reply-To: <7e4c2639-0fc9-02fc-ef96-333d26f50673@nerdvana.org.au> References: <1ae3e82d1025090b73c0f9ed4af8f083@webbmaul.handcraftedcomputers.com.au> <086a367d-3128-d17c-ea97-4197645b9bb0@nerdvana.org.au> <3C6091A5-0C8F-486B-A304-47E2D339379C@catalyst.net.nz> <5039cdc7-aaed-4500-965c-f46950ce7f0f@www.fastmail.com> <87zhrvlteq.fsf@silverfish.pri> <20190125232951.pb62zxssxm5p6jwv@merlins.org> <7e4c2639-0fc9-02fc-ef96-333d26f50673@nerdvana.org.au> Message-ID: <20190126034727.xc2hmjxc6iahg5fl@merlins.org> On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 10:58:48AM +1100, Steve Walsh wrote: > Hi Marc > > I was hoping to catch up with you and discuss the issues around open wifi > for the conference and the need to rotate every year, but it slipped my mind > when we caught up at the conference dinner. No worries. > If you're happy to wait until next year to discuss, please find me at > GC2020, otherwise reach out to me off-list and I'll try to lay it all out in > an email to explain, but it's a complex issue that kind of needs several > historical things about the way the technologically enlightened AU > government has handled the growth and use of the internet understood to put > the reasons into context. Note that I'm not worried about past but only future. Maybe past reasons have or will expire? That said, if it's not going to change for $REASONS, you can totally tell me next time. But yeah, it would be nice if it could be simplified. For what it's worth I got google to use the same encryption password on the googleguestpsk wifi worldwide because at the end of the day there weren't good reasons not to, and it sure was simpler to be able to roam between locations without changing your password every time. That included the Oz and NZ offices, although I don't claim to konw the local laws, regulations, or challenges. Either way, great to see you again and thanks for your reply. Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From madduck at madduck.net Sat Jan 26 19:17:21 2019 From: madduck at madduck.net (martin f krafft) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 21:17:21 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <725168856.949579.1548154536679.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <725168856.949579.1548154536679.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> Message-ID: <20190126081721.GA9316@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Quoting "Wes Cilldhaire", who wrote on 2019-01-22 at 21:55 Uhr +1100: >I used this[0] method to get a serial console on it, then used >a normal usb-a to micro-usb cable plugged in to my laptop. It sets >up a usb serial gadget driver on the pi which presents to the host >as a cdc_acm serial device then runs a getty on it. I've followed this method byte for byte, but I see no serial device on the laptop. On the Pi I just get the message "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list of pending drivers." which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 properly. But hey: # grep dwc /proc/cmdline 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc ^^^^^^^^^^ Also, yes, I've rebooted a second time. It's also in /proc/modules, and there seem to be no errors in syslog. Any clues? I mean, I can connect on Wifi, but I really want a serial console. 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The kernel/getty/etc would possibly need to be told to open a console on this port. I see 2 console= parameters there, for the HW RS232 serial port, and probably the first console. So wild guess it needs a third console= parameter for that USB port?? Compare with someone who has this running successfully? Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.top.geek.nz/ From marc at merlins.org Sat Jan 26 20:48:07 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 01:48:07 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pictures/blog from LCA 2019 Message-ID: <20190126094807.oam2lnnb4vlr5rfi@merlins.org> A huge thanks to all the organizers, speakers, and attendees for making the conf what it is. It was my 17th time since 2001, still loved it (I'd even have been happy with an extra day on saturday). Quick summary: http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2019-01-21_Linux_Conf_au-2019-in-Christchurch.html More photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NyR5mRyDXNYkaNX37 Open hardware miniconf on monday: http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2019-01-21_Donkey-Car-with-Tensorflow-Video-Analysis-at-Open-Hardware-Miniconf-at-Linux_Conf_au-2018.html Best to all, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From thilinapiy at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 06:19:41 2019 From: thilinapiy at gmail.com (Thilina Piyasundara) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 08:19:41 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <20190126092635.GA7533@tui.site> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <725168856.949579.1548154536679.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> <20190126081721.GA9316@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <20190126092635.GA7533@tui.site> Message-ID: Hi, I use [1] to enable serial console over USB and [2] for enable wifi in the PRi. 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuUyGn-AgGk 2. http://coffeetime.solutions/configure-wifi-connection-raspbian-stretch-lite-raspberry-pi/ Thanks and regards, Thilina Piyasundara M: +94-71-775-0006 M: +64 210 8558 125 Blog: thilina.piyasundara.org Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/thilinapiyasundara On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 10:27 PM Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > On Sat 26 Jan 2019 21:17:21 NZDT +1300, martin f krafft wrote: > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > I haven't powered up mine yet so all this is untried guesswork, but you > say you're connecting to one of the micro-USB ports on the RPi. The > kernel/getty/etc would possibly need to be told to open a console on > this port. I see 2 console= parameters there, for the HW RS232 serial > port, and probably the first console. So wild guess it needs a third > console= parameter for that USB port?? Compare with someone who has this > running successfully? > > Volker > > -- > Volker Kuhlmann > http://volker.top.geek.nz/ > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ideally, please include the URL from the programme, which would make my life a bit easier, as well as a sentence about why you wrote in about this talk. I will faithfully collect and collate all responses, and feed them to the other team members. See you next year! -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon. spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net From ejzimmer at gmail.com Sun Jan 27 14:19:29 2019 From: ejzimmer at gmail.com (Erin Zimmer) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 14:19:29 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Reminder: Outstanding talks feedback In-Reply-To: <20190127013733.GA18327@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> References: <20190124221149.GA17148@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <20190127013733.GA18327@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: For me, the two really stand-out talks were Serena Chen's Design for Security (https://lca2019.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/247/) and Lilly Ryan's Apathy and Arsenic ( https://lca2019.linux.org.au/schedule/presentation/181/). Both were interesting topics, but, more importantly, I think, both are excellent presenters. They had coherent stories, told in entertaining ways, with clear calls to action. You walked out feeling like you'd learned something, without being overwhelmed, and you were excited to apply it in the future! On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 12:37, martin f krafft wrote: > Dear conferencers, > > hopefully, you're safely home, or enjoying Christchurch or New > Zealand for a bit longer. > > It would be really nice if you could send in any thoughts you might > have about the programme while memorys are still hot. We're > especially interested in hearing what talk(s) you thought were > outstanding. > > This sort of information helps us with programme selection in the > future. > > To make it as easy as possible for you, please just reply to this > e-mail (Reply-To set to madduck+lca2019-feedback at madduck.net). > > Ideally, please include the URL from the programme, which would make > my life a bit easier, as well as a sentence about why you wrote in > about this talk. > > I will faithfully collect and collate all responses, and feed them > to the other team members. > > See you next year! > > -- > @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net > > don't hate yourself in the morning -- sleep till noon. > > spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quoting "Thilina Piyasundara", who wrote on 2019-01-27 at 08:19 Uhr +1300: >Hi, > >I use [1] to enable serial console over USB and [2] for enable wifi >in the PRi. >1. [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuUyGn-AgGk? I've got Wifi working. I followed those precise instructions, but I keep getting the same error. And there is no device in lsusb on my laptop. Which leads me to believe, unfortunately, that my RPi is actually dysfunctional. Thanks everyone for their help. Wifi works. That'll have to do. -- @martinkrafft | https://riot.im/app/#/room/#madduck:madduck.net "if you are going to run a rinky-dink distro made by a couple of volunteers, why not run a rinky-dink distro made by a lot of volunteers?" -- jaldhar h. vyas spamtraps: madduck.bogus at madduck.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Also can we put a link to the slides for talks as well? Regards, Morgan Leigh From paul.mcinerney at sydney.edu.au Mon Jan 28 12:26:59 2019 From: paul.mcinerney at sydney.edu.au (Paul McInerney) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 01:26:59 +0000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Links to videos on conference program pages Message-ID: Here's the direct link: https://m.youtube.com/user/linuxconfau2019/videos ? On Jan 28, 2019 12:21 PM, Morgan Leigh wrote: Greetings, Can someone please put a link to a talk's video on the talk's page on the conference schedule? That will make it heaps easier to watch talks that one missed out due to not being able to be everywhere at once and will be a useful resource for the future. Also can we put a link to the slides for talks as well? Regards, Morgan Leigh -- Chat mailing list Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/7wUBCD1jy9tY1wEmCWGYFh?domain=lists.lca2019.linux.org.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From morgan at wirejunkie.com Mon Jan 28 13:19:11 2019 From: morgan at wirejunkie.com (Morgan Leigh) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 13:19:11 +1100 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Links to videos on conference program pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, but I do know that's there. What I meant is to put a link to each talk's video on it's individual page on the conference website. Morgan On 28/01/2019 12:26, Paul McInerney wrote: > Here's the direct link: > https://m.youtube.com/user/linuxconfau2019/videos > > ?? > > On Jan 28, 2019 12:21 PM, Morgan Leigh wrote: > > Greetings, > Can someone please put a link to a talk's video on the talk's page on > the conference schedule? That will make it heaps easier to watch talks > that one missed out due to not being able to be everywhere at once and > will be a useful resource for the future. Also can we put a link to the > slides for talks as well? > > Regards, > > Morgan Leigh > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/7wUBCD1jy9tY1wEmCWGYFh?domain=lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > From carl at nextdayvideo.com Mon Jan 28 13:51:10 2019 From: carl at nextdayvideo.com (Carl Karsten) Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:51:10 -0600 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Links to videos on conference program pages In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: you want link(s) on this page: https://gitlab.com/laconfdev/symposion_app/blob/dev/2019/pinaxcon/templates/symposion/schedule/presentation_detail.html This year every talk has 3 video URLs: LA mirror, archive.org, youtube I can provide the data, but someone will need to update the site to manage the data. getting a test instance of the site up is challenging, mostly because getting sample data is a bit of work. On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 8:19 PM Morgan Leigh wrote: > Thanks, but I do know that's there. What I meant is to put a link to > each talk's video on it's individual page on the conference website. > > Morgan > > On 28/01/2019 12:26, Paul McInerney wrote: > > Here's the direct link: > > https://m.youtube.com/user/linuxconfau2019/videos > > > > ? > > > > On Jan 28, 2019 12:21 PM, Morgan Leigh wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > Can someone please put a link to a talk's video on the talk's page on > > the conference schedule? That will make it heaps easier to watch > talks > > that one missed out due to not being able to be everywhere at once > and > > will be a useful resource for the future. Also can we put a link to > the > > slides for talks as well? > > > > Regards, > > > > Morgan Leigh > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > https://protect-au.mimecast.com/s/7wUBCD1jy9tY1wEmCWGYFh?domain=lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > > > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz Mon Jan 28 14:16:29 2019 From: lca2019 at ewen.mcneill.gen.nz (Ewen McNeill) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 16:16:29 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Links to videos on conference program pages In-Reply-To: <7436d204-227d-5784-c43b-9cb41930a6ab@wirejunkie.com> References: <20190124221149.GA17148@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <20190127013733.GA18327@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <7436d204-227d-5784-c43b-9cb41930a6ab@wirejunkie.com> Message-ID: <73bd9e99-1b2a-a3ad-a949-87dbfb052266@ewen.mcneill.gen.nz> On 2019-01-28 14:21, Morgan Leigh wrote: > Can someone please put a link to a talk's video on the talk's page on > the conference schedule? The links to the Sysadmin Miniconf ones are linked from: http://sysadmin.miniconf.org/programme19.html along with the slides that we received (and have been since last Monday for the slide, and mid-week last week for the recordings; at least the ones that have been published -- there are two sessions on the day, and one session after, that haven't been released (yet)) Typically the linux.conf.au site does get updated at some point during the year with those recording/slide links, but I believe it's a manual process so depends on spare time of volunteers who have just spent a year (and most of the last month) on the conference already. IIRC many years it was March/April/May sort of time by the time it got done. Until then scanning: https://www.youtube.com/user/linuxconfau2019/videos for the talk titles you're interested in and/or scanning back through #lca2019 on Twitter for tweets of slides/recordings is about the most efficient way to find them soon after the conference. If you're particularly keen perhaps you / others could crowd-source something like that on the wiki? Ewen From will at artcontrol.me Mon Jan 28 17:18:11 2019 From: will at artcontrol.me (William Mckee) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 19:18:11 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Links to videos on conference program pages In-Reply-To: <7436d204-227d-5784-c43b-9cb41930a6ab@wirejunkie.com> References: <20190124221149.GA17148@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <20190127013733.GA18327@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <7436d204-227d-5784-c43b-9cb41930a6ab@wirejunkie.com> Message-ID: On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 2:21 PM Morgan Leigh wrote: > > Greetings, > Can someone please put a link to a talk's video on the talk's page on > the conference schedule? That will make it heaps easier to watch talks > that one missed out due to not being able to be everywhere at once and > will be a useful resource for the future. Also can we put a link to the > slides for talks as well? I built this with the veyepar json data. https://storage.googleapis.com/lca2019/index.html No slides but it has the talks and url to the youtube. Tags filter room and speaker. cheers, william. From wes at sol1.com.au Tue Jan 29 07:04:24 2019 From: wes at sol1.com.au (Wes Cilldhaire) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:04:24 +1100 (AEDT) Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <20190126081721.GA9316@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <725168856.949579.1548154536679.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> <20190126081721.GA9316@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> Message-ID: <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft madduck at madduck.net wrote: > On the Pi I just get the message > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list > of pending drivers." > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 properly. > But hey: > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > ^^^^^^^^^^ You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its position in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) (null) From xrobau at gmail.com Tue Jan 29 08:13:02 2019 From: xrobau at gmail.com (Rob Thomas) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 07:13:02 +1000 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pictures/blog from LCA 2019 In-Reply-To: <20190126094807.oam2lnnb4vlr5rfi@merlins.org> References: <20190126094807.oam2lnnb4vlr5rfi@merlins.org> Message-ID: Those photos are great - especially those of the miniconf, which I (sigh, again) didn't get to go to. I had a bit of a browse around and didn't see their licencing terms - can you clarify their usage, please? I'm hoping CC-BY-SA or something like that 8-) --Rob On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 19:48, Marc MERLIN wrote: > A huge thanks to all the organizers, speakers, and attendees for making > the conf what it is. It was my 17th time since 2001, still loved it (I'd > even have been happy with an extra day on saturday). > > Quick summary: > > http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2019-01-21_Linux_Conf_au-2019-in-Christchurch.html > > More photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NyR5mRyDXNYkaNX37 > > Open hardware miniconf on monday: > > http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2019-01-21_Donkey-Car-with-Tensorflow-Video-Analysis-at-Open-Hardware-Miniconf-at-Linux_Conf_au-2018.html > > Best to all, > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP > 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at merlins.org Tue Jan 29 09:25:40 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 11:25:40 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Pictures/blog from LCA 2019 In-Reply-To: References: <20190126094807.oam2lnnb4vlr5rfi@merlins.org> Message-ID: Thanks for asking. You can have any picture I took under CC-BY-SA Cheers Marc On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 10:13 Rob Thomas Those photos are great - especially those of the miniconf, which I (sigh, > again) didn't get to go to. > > I had a bit of a browse around and didn't see their licencing terms - can > you clarify their usage, please? I'm hoping CC-BY-SA or something like that > 8-) > > --Rob > > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 at 19:48, Marc MERLIN wrote: > >> A huge thanks to all the organizers, speakers, and attendees for making >> the conf what it is. It was my 17th time since 2001, still loved it (I'd >> even have been happy with an extra day on saturday). >> >> Quick summary: >> >> http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2019-01-21_Linux_Conf_au-2019-in-Christchurch.html >> >> More photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NyR5mRyDXNYkaNX37 >> >> Open hardware miniconf on monday: >> >> http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2019-01-21_Donkey-Car-with-Tensorflow-Video-Analysis-at-Open-Hardware-Miniconf-at-Linux_Conf_au-2018.html >> >> Best to all, >> Marc >> -- >> "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - >> A.S.R. >> Microsoft is to operating systems .... >> .... what McDonalds is to gourmet >> cooking >> Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP >> 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 >> -- >> Chat mailing list >> Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au >> http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From marc at merlins.org Tue Jan 29 16:01:03 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:01:03 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup In-Reply-To: <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> References: <6d52b5b8-2aba-4f7f-ab11-e0cf170a9687@www.fastmail.com> <725168856.949579.1548154536679.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> <20190126081721.GA9316@fishbowl.rw.madduck.net> <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> Message-ID: <20190129050103.n5urv4dlwsrxd2pj@merlins.org> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:04:24AM +1100, Wes Cilldhaire wrote: > > > ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft madduck at madduck.net wrote: > > On the Pi I just get the message > > > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list > > of pending drivers." > > > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 properly. > > > But hey: > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. > > Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its position in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) > (null) For anyone with the hat, edit the first partition's config.txt, add enable_uart=1 Put it back in the rPi, power it up, and get serial console at 115200. Then you can login in as pi/raspberry https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/enabling-serial-console Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From marc at merlins.org Tue Jan 29 16:02:14 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:02:14 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup, cdcether not working? In-Reply-To: <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> Message-ID: <20190129050214.36eddajchyo4j5lb@merlins.org> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:04:24AM +1100, Wes Cilldhaire wrote: > > > ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft madduck at madduck.net wrote: > > On the Pi I just get the message > > > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list > > of pending drivers." > > > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 properly. > > > But hey: > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. > > Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its position in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) > (null) I can't get cdc_ether working I used the rPi image that was available from the burner near rego. As indicated here, I did this: root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/config.txt dtoverlay=dwc2 root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/*.txt /boot/cmdline.txt:dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=b4261201-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline fsck.repair=yes rootwait splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles modules-load=dwc2,g_ether /boot/config.txt:dtoverlay=dwc2 interface seems to come up: [ 5.655024] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_d not found, using dummy regulator [ 5.655159] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_a not found, using dummy regulator [ 6.113258] dwc2 20980000.usb: EPs: 8, dedicated fifos, 4080 entries in SPRAM [ 6.154975] dwc2 20980000.usb: DWC OTG Controller [ 6.162747] dwc2 20980000.usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 [ 6.252180] dwc2 20980000.usb: irq 33, io mem 0x20980000 [ 7.044669] g_ether gadget: Ethernet Gadget, version: Memorial Day 2008 [ 7.053989] g_ether gadget: g_ether ready [ 7.060353] dwc2 20980000.usb: bound driver g_ether [ 7.189129] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed [ 7.236167] i2c /dev entries driver [ 7.565138] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed [ 7.693246] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed [ 7.766371] dwc2 20980000.usb: new address 10 [ 7.787912] g_ether gadget: high-speed config #1: CDC Ethernet (ECM) I give it an IP: root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 ether be:e6:a6:5b:35:18 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) On my computer, I give it an IP too: root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 dmesg says: Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.209791] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB device number 40 using xhci_hcd Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358611] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0525, idProduct=a4a2, bcdDevice= 4.14 Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358615] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358617] usb 1-2: Product: RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358619] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Linux 4.14.79+ with 20980000.usb Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.359846] cdc_subset: probe of 1-2:1.0 failed with error -22 Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.361388] cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5 Not sure if cdc_subset probe failed is bad. If I ping my computer from the rPi, I see its packets on my laptop: 20:58:43.391704 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.2, length 28 20:58:43.391727 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5, length 28 But no packet from my laptop never seems to make it back to the rPi. For those who got it to work, do I have the wrong rPi image or some other driver problem that causes the rPi not to get packets back in? Thanks, Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 From aenertia at aenertia.net Tue Jan 29 16:15:15 2019 From: aenertia at aenertia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?=) Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2019 18:15:15 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup, cdcether not working? In-Reply-To: <20190129050214.36eddajchyo4j5lb@merlins.org> References: <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> <20190129050214.36eddajchyo4j5lb@merlins.org> Message-ID: I Enable the gpio serial it works with UART normally but due to architectural issues with the broadcom SOCs can interfere with perf. On Tue., 29 Jan. 2019, 18:02 Marc MERLIN On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:04:24AM +1100, Wes Cilldhaire wrote: > > > > > > ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft madduck at madduck.net > wrote: > > > On the Pi I just get the message > > > > > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list > > > of pending drivers." > > > > > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 properly. > > > > > But hey: > > > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the > device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. > > > > Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its position > in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) > > (null) > > I can't get cdc_ether working > > I used the rPi image that was available from the burner near rego. > > As indicated here, I did this: > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/config.txt > dtoverlay=dwc2 > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/*.txt > > /boot/cmdline.txt:dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 > root=PARTUUID=b4261201-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > fsck.repair=yes rootwait splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles > modules-load=dwc2,g_ether > /boot/config.txt:dtoverlay=dwc2 > > interface seems to come up: > [ 5.655024] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_d not found, > using dummy regulator > [ 5.655159] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_a not found, > using dummy regulator > [ 6.113258] dwc2 20980000.usb: EPs: 8, dedicated fifos, 4080 entries in > SPRAM > [ 6.154975] dwc2 20980000.usb: DWC OTG Controller > [ 6.162747] dwc2 20980000.usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus > number 1 > [ 6.252180] dwc2 20980000.usb: irq 33, io mem 0x20980000 > [ 7.044669] g_ether gadget: Ethernet Gadget, version: Memorial Day 2008 > [ 7.053989] g_ether gadget: g_ether ready > [ 7.060353] dwc2 20980000.usb: bound driver g_ether > [ 7.189129] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > [ 7.236167] i2c /dev entries driver > [ 7.565138] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > [ 7.693246] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > [ 7.766371] dwc2 20980000.usb: new address 10 > [ 7.787912] g_ether gadget: high-speed config #1: CDC Ethernet (ECM) > > I give it an IP: > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 > ether be:e6:a6:5b:35:18 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) > > On my computer, I give it an IP too: > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 > > dmesg says: > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.209791] usb 1-2: new high-speed > USB device number 40 using xhci_hcd > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358611] usb 1-2: New USB device > found, idVendor=0525, idProduct=a4a2, bcdDevice= 4.14 > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358615] usb 1-2: New USB device > strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358617] usb 1-2: Product: > RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358619] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: > Linux 4.14.79+ with 20980000.usb > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.359846] cdc_subset: probe of > 1-2:1.0 failed with error -22 > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.361388] cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 usb0: > register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, > 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5 > > Not sure if cdc_subset probe failed is bad. > > If I ping my computer from the rPi, I see its packets on my laptop: > 20:58:43.391704 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.2, length > 28 > 20:58:43.391727 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5, length 28 > > But no packet from my laptop never seems to make it back to the rPi. > > For those who got it to work, do I have the wrong rPi image or some > other driver problem that causes the rPi not to get packets back in? > > Thanks, > Marc > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > cooking > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP > 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 > -- > Chat mailing list > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marc at merlins.org Tue Jan 29 16:26:50 2019 From: marc at merlins.org (Marc MERLIN) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:26:50 -0800 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup, cdcether not working? In-Reply-To: References: <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> <20190129050214.36eddajchyo4j5lb@merlins.org> Message-ID: <20190129052650.GA30571@merlins.org> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 06:15:15PM +1300, Joel Wir?mu Pauling wrote: > I Enable the gpio serial it works with UART normally but due to > architectural issues with the broadcom SOCs can interfere with perf. Are you saying that using serial console breaks usb ethernet? > On Tue., 29 Jan. 2019, 18:02 Marc MERLIN > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:04:24AM +1100, Wes Cilldhaire wrote: > > > > > > > > > ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft madduck at madduck.net > > wrote: > > > > On the Pi I just get the message > > > > > > > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list > > > > of pending drivers." > > > > > > > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 properly. > > > > > > > But hey: > > > > > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > > > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > > > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > > > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > > > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > > > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the > > device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. > > > > > > Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its position > > in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) > > > (null) > > > > I can't get cdc_ether working > > > > I used the rPi image that was available from the burner near rego. > > > > As indicated here, I did this: > > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/config.txt > > dtoverlay=dwc2 > > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/*.txt > > > > /boot/cmdline.txt:dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 console=tty1 > > root=PARTUUID=b4261201-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles > > modules-load=dwc2,g_ether > > /boot/config.txt:dtoverlay=dwc2 > > > > interface seems to come up: > > [ 5.655024] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_d not found, > > using dummy regulator > > [ 5.655159] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_a not found, > > using dummy regulator > > [ 6.113258] dwc2 20980000.usb: EPs: 8, dedicated fifos, 4080 entries in > > SPRAM > > [ 6.154975] dwc2 20980000.usb: DWC OTG Controller > > [ 6.162747] dwc2 20980000.usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus > > number 1 > > [ 6.252180] dwc2 20980000.usb: irq 33, io mem 0x20980000 > > [ 7.044669] g_ether gadget: Ethernet Gadget, version: Memorial Day 2008 > > [ 7.053989] g_ether gadget: g_ether ready > > [ 7.060353] dwc2 20980000.usb: bound driver g_ether > > [ 7.189129] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > > [ 7.236167] i2c /dev entries driver > > [ 7.565138] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > > [ 7.693246] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > > [ 7.766371] dwc2 20980000.usb: new address 10 > > [ 7.787912] g_ether gadget: high-speed config #1: CDC Ethernet (ECM) > > > > I give it an IP: > > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 > > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 > > ether be:e6:a6:5b:35:18 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) > > > > On my computer, I give it an IP too: > > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 > > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 > > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x20 > > > > dmesg says: > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.209791] usb 1-2: new high-speed > > USB device number 40 using xhci_hcd > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358611] usb 1-2: New USB device > > found, idVendor=0525, idProduct=a4a2, bcdDevice= 4.14 > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358615] usb 1-2: New USB device > > strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358617] usb 1-2: Product: > > RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358619] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: > > Linux 4.14.79+ with 20980000.usb > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.359846] cdc_subset: probe of > > 1-2:1.0 failed with error -22 > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.361388] cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 usb0: > > register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, > > 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5 > > > > Not sure if cdc_subset probe failed is bad. > > > > If I ping my computer from the rPi, I see its packets on my laptop: > > 20:58:43.391704 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.2, length > > 28 > > 20:58:43.391727 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5, length 28 > > > > But no packet from my laptop never seems to make it back to the rPi. > > > > For those who got it to work, do I have the wrong rPi image or some > > other driver problem that causes the rPi not to get packets back in? > > > > Thanks, > > Marc > > -- > > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > > A.S.R. > > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > > cooking > > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP > > 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 > > -- > > Chat mailing list > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ From aenertia at aenertia.net Wed Jan 30 04:26:40 2019 From: aenertia at aenertia.net (=?UTF-8?Q?Joel_Wir=C4=81mu_Pauling?=) Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 06:26:40 +1300 Subject: [LCA2019 Chat] Headless RPi setup, cdcether not working? In-Reply-To: <20190129052650.GA30571@merlins.org> References: <1364374268.1261992.1548705864907.JavaMail.zimbra@sol1.com.au> <20190129050214.36eddajchyo4j5lb@merlins.org> <20190129052650.GA30571@merlins.org> Message-ID: It slows down the SPI bus frequency and breaks several other DTB overlays. The sunxi stuff has proper Uarts separate to ghr GPIO which is one reason I favour them over the real rpi. On Tue., 29 Jan. 2019, 18:26 Marc MERLIN On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 06:15:15PM +1300, Joel Wir?mu Pauling wrote: > > I Enable the gpio serial it works with UART normally but due to > > architectural issues with the broadcom SOCs can interfere with perf. > > Are you saying that using serial console breaks usb ethernet? > > > On Tue., 29 Jan. 2019, 18:02 Marc MERLIN > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:04:24AM +1100, Wes Cilldhaire wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft > madduck at madduck.net > > > wrote: > > > > > On the Pi I just get the message > > > > > > > > > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list > > > > > of pending drivers." > > > > > > > > > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 > properly. > > > > > > > > > But hey: > > > > > > > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline > > > > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 > > > > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD > > > > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 > > > > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 > > > > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > > > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > > > You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the > > > device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. > > > > > > > > Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its > position > > > in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) > > > > (null) > > > > > > I can't get cdc_ether working > > > > > > I used the rPi image that was available from the burner near rego. > > > > > > As indicated here, I did this: > > > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/config.txt > > > dtoverlay=dwc2 > > > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/*.txt > > > > > > /boot/cmdline.txt:dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 > console=tty1 > > > root=PARTUUID=b4261201-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline > > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles > > > modules-load=dwc2,g_ether > > > /boot/config.txt:dtoverlay=dwc2 > > > > > > interface seems to come up: > > > [ 5.655024] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_d not found, > > > using dummy regulator > > > [ 5.655159] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_a not found, > > > using dummy regulator > > > [ 6.113258] dwc2 20980000.usb: EPs: 8, dedicated fifos, 4080 > entries in > > > SPRAM > > > [ 6.154975] dwc2 20980000.usb: DWC OTG Controller > > > [ 6.162747] dwc2 20980000.usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus > > > number 1 > > > [ 6.252180] dwc2 20980000.usb: irq 33, io mem 0x20980000 > > > [ 7.044669] g_ether gadget: Ethernet Gadget, version: Memorial Day > 2008 > > > [ 7.053989] g_ether gadget: g_ether ready > > > [ 7.060353] dwc2 20980000.usb: bound driver g_ether > > > [ 7.189129] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > > > [ 7.236167] i2c /dev entries driver > > > [ 7.565138] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > > > [ 7.693246] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed > > > [ 7.766371] dwc2 20980000.usb: new address 10 > > > [ 7.787912] g_ether gadget: high-speed config #1: CDC Ethernet (ECM) > > > > > > I give it an IP: > > > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 > > > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > > > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast > 192.168.1.255 > > > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x20 > > > ether be:e6:a6:5b:35:18 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) > > > > > > On my computer, I give it an IP too: > > > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 > > > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 > > > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast > 192.168.1.255 > > > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid > 0x20 > > > > > > dmesg says: > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.209791] usb 1-2: new high-speed > > > USB device number 40 using xhci_hcd > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358611] usb 1-2: New USB device > > > found, idVendor=0525, idProduct=a4a2, bcdDevice= 4.14 > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358615] usb 1-2: New USB device > > > strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358617] usb 1-2: Product: > > > RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358619] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: > > > Linux 4.14.79+ with 20980000.usb > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.359846] cdc_subset: probe of > > > 1-2:1.0 failed with error -22 > > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.361388] cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 usb0: > > > register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, > > > 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5 > > > > > > Not sure if cdc_subset probe failed is bad. > > > > > > If I ping my computer from the rPi, I see its packets on my laptop: > > > 20:58:43.391704 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.2, > length > > > 28 > > > 20:58:43.391727 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5, length > 28 > > > > > > But no packet from my laptop never seems to make it back to the rPi. > > > > > > For those who got it to work, do I have the wrong rPi image or some > > > other driver problem that causes the rPi not to get packets back in? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Marc > > > -- > > > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > > > A.S.R. > > > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > > > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > > > cooking > > > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP > > > 7F55D5F27AAF9D08 > > > -- > > > Chat mailing list > > > Chat at lists.lca2019.linux.org.au > > > http://lists.lca2019.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/chat > > > > > -- > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - > A.S.R. > Microsoft is to operating systems .... > .... what McDonalds is to gourmet > cooking > Home page: 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On Wed, Jan 30, 2019, 06:27 Joel Wir?mu Pauling It slows down the SPI bus frequency and breaks several other DTB overlays. > > The sunxi stuff has proper Uarts separate to ghr GPIO which is one reason > I favour them over the real rpi. > > On Tue., 29 Jan. 2019, 18:26 Marc MERLIN >> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 06:15:15PM +1300, Joel Wir?mu Pauling wrote: >> > I Enable the gpio serial it works with UART normally but due to >> > architectural issues with the broadcom SOCs can interfere with perf. >> >> Are you saying that using serial console breaks usb ethernet? >> >> > On Tue., 29 Jan. 2019, 18:02 Marc MERLIN > > >> > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:04:24AM +1100, Wes Cilldhaire wrote: >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ----- On 26 Jan, 2019, at 7:17 PM, martin f krafft >> madduck at madduck.net >> > > wrote: >> > > > > On the Pi I just get the message >> > > > >> > > > > "udc-core: couldn't find an available UDC - added [g_cdc] to list >> > > > > of pending drivers." >> > > > >> > > > > which the article says means that I didn't enable the dwc2 >> properly. >> > > > >> > > > > But hey: >> > > > >> > > > > # grep dwc /proc/cmdline >> > > > > 8250.nr_uarts=0 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=656 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=416 >> > > > > bcm2708_fb.fbswap=1 smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:3B:08:DD >> > > > > vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 >> > > > > dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyS0,115200 console=tty1 >> > > > > root=PARTUUID=9a617d9a-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline >> > > > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait modules-load=dwc2,g_cdc >> > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ >> > > > >> > > > You need to add the dtoverlay=dwc2 line in config.txt as well so the >> > > device actually appears in the device tree for the module to find. >> > > > >> > > > Yes, I overlooked this step too initially, something about its >> position >> > > in the instructions seems to make one's mind skip over it :) >> > > > (null) >> > > >> > > I can't get cdc_ether working >> > > >> > > I used the rPi image that was available from the burner near rego. >> > > >> > > As indicated here, I did this: >> > > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/config.txt >> > > dtoverlay=dwc2 >> > > root at raspberrypi:~# grep dwc2 /boot/*.txt >> > > >> > > /boot/cmdline.txt:dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=serial0,115200 >> console=tty1 >> > > root=PARTUUID=b4261201-02 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline >> > > fsck.repair=yes rootwait splash plymouth.ignore-serial-consoles >> > > modules-load=dwc2,g_ether >> > > /boot/config.txt:dtoverlay=dwc2 >> > > >> > > interface seems to come up: >> > > [ 5.655024] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_d not >> found, >> > > using dummy regulator >> > > [ 5.655159] dwc2 20980000.usb: 20980000.usb supply vusb_a not >> found, >> > > using dummy regulator >> > > [ 6.113258] dwc2 20980000.usb: EPs: 8, dedicated fifos, 4080 >> entries in >> > > SPRAM >> > > [ 6.154975] dwc2 20980000.usb: DWC OTG Controller >> > > [ 6.162747] dwc2 20980000.usb: new USB bus registered, assigned bus >> > > number 1 >> > > [ 6.252180] dwc2 20980000.usb: irq 33, io mem 0x20980000 >> > > [ 7.044669] g_ether gadget: Ethernet Gadget, version: Memorial Day >> 2008 >> > > [ 7.053989] g_ether gadget: g_ether ready >> > > [ 7.060353] dwc2 20980000.usb: bound driver g_ether >> > > [ 7.189129] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed >> > > [ 7.236167] i2c /dev entries driver >> > > [ 7.565138] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed >> > > [ 7.693246] dwc2 20980000.usb: new device is high-speed >> > > [ 7.766371] dwc2 20980000.usb: new address 10 >> > > [ 7.787912] g_ether gadget: high-speed config #1: CDC Ethernet >> (ECM) >> > > >> > > I give it an IP: >> > > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 >> > > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 >> > > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast >> 192.168.1.255 >> > > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid >> 0x20 >> > > ether be:e6:a6:5b:35:18 txqueuelen 1000 (Ethernet) >> > > >> > > On my computer, I give it an IP too: >> > > root at raspberrypi:~# ifconfig usb0 >> > > usb0: flags=4163 mtu 1500 >> > > inet 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast >> 192.168.1.255 >> > > inet6 fe80::15e4:95ea:e740:aa7d prefixlen 64 scopeid >> 0x20 >> > > >> > > dmesg says: >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.209791] usb 1-2: new >> high-speed >> > > USB device number 40 using xhci_hcd >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358611] usb 1-2: New USB >> device >> > > found, idVendor=0525, idProduct=a4a2, bcdDevice= 4.14 >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358615] usb 1-2: New USB >> device >> > > strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358617] usb 1-2: Product: >> > > RNDIS/Ethernet Gadget >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.358619] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: >> > > Linux 4.14.79+ with 20980000.usb >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.359846] cdc_subset: probe of >> > > 1-2:1.0 failed with error -22 >> > > Jan 28 20:38:26 saruman kernel: [728255.361388] cdc_ether 1-2:1.0 >> usb0: >> > > register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, >> > > 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5 >> > > >> > > Not sure if cdc_subset probe failed is bad. >> > > >> > > If I ping my computer from the rPi, I see its packets on my laptop: >> > > 20:58:43.391704 ARP, Request who-has 192.168.1.1 tell 192.168.1.2, >> length >> > > 28 >> > > 20:58:43.391727 ARP, Reply 192.168.1.1 is-at 62:3c:c9:7f:9d:e5, >> length 28 >> > > >> > > But no packet from my laptop never seems to make it back to the rPi. >> > > >> > > For those who got it to work, do I have the wrong rPi image or some >> > > other driver problem that causes the rPi not to get packets back in? >> > > >> > > Thanks, >> > > Marc >> > > -- >> > > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - >> > > A.S.R. >> > > Microsoft is to operating systems .... >> > > .... what McDonalds is to >> gourmet >> > > cooking >> > > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ | PGP >> > > 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Rob Thomas wrote on 30/1/19 2:03 pm: > Anyone who signed up for the free 14 day subscription for Bria, so they > could VoIP at the Conference, now would be a good time to cancel it (if > you haven't already). > > https://play.google.com/store/account/subscriptions > > There is a way to do it on IOS, but I am unaware of the magic incantations! > In iOS, just follow the in app prompts to unsubscribe, it takes you to the appropriate place in the app store to unsubscribe. Jason -- Jason Lewis http://emacstragic.net